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Re: Updates and Changes

Postby MNdible » October 31st, 2014, 2:26 pm

I'm not trying to change streets.mn -- that's a particular stream I don't have any interest in paddling against. As I said, more power to them for creating a website that they're passionate about. My issue is that this forum, which I apparently have some sort of emotional investment in, is going to be overrun by urban studies majors hopped up on CNU talking points (full disclosure -- I used to be one).

Anyway. I've said my piece and I'll hope for the best.

This, by the way, was awesome.

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Re: Updates and Changes

Postby Nick » October 31st, 2014, 3:40 pm

My LONGTIME barometer for this merger has been "oh God I hope we don't scare off MNdible."

...a true story.

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Re: UrbanMSP/streets.mn merger

Postby MNdible » October 31st, 2014, 4:15 pm

Well that's absurd on several levels.

But thanks for making me feel important.

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Re: Updates and Changes

Postby transportationist » October 31st, 2014, 6:34 pm

Nathan wrote:And if streets.mn wanted more posters from urban about construction development architecture and design why didn't they just ask. Most of us in that profession wouldn't see our insight as relevant to that blog so why would we just randomly submit?
Please write more about urban construction development architecture and design for the streets.mn blog. Email one of us for details.

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Re: Updates and Changes

Postby moda253 » November 3rd, 2014, 12:01 pm

Nick wrote:It will eventually go away as part of merging the two sites. There was kind of an ongoing issue with overlap between streets.mn posts and comment sections overlapping with largely the same people. We explored lots of technical stuff, but at the moment there's not really a great/easy way to combine WordPress and phpBB. If we get a pile of grant money next year (a hope) then that's something that will probably happen. In the meantime I changed the logo and will work on doing little things like that over the next couple weeks.

Why not pay the 12 bucks a year and keep the urbanmsp.com domain name and add a redirect?

And why not just take donations to raise the money that you need to do the work you need? Which way are you going? PHPBB to wordpress or vice versa? take the title of the blog entry and that's your subject and your starting thread for your reply posts. It's just data.

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Re: Updates and Changes

Postby Pip » November 3rd, 2014, 1:52 pm

moda253 wrote:
Nick wrote:It will eventually go away as part of merging the two sites. There was kind of an ongoing issue with overlap between streets.mn posts and comment sections overlapping with largely the same people. We explored lots of technical stuff, but at the moment there's not really a great/easy way to combine WordPress and phpBB. If we get a pile of grant money next year (a hope) then that's something that will probably happen. In the meantime I changed the logo and will work on doing little things like that over the next couple weeks.

Why not pay the 12 bucks a year and keep the urbanmsp.com domain name and add a redirect?

And why not just take donations to raise the money that you need to do the work you need? Which way are you going? PHPBB to wordpress or vice versa? take the title of the blog entry and that's your subject and your starting thread for your reply posts. It's just data.
wp-united.com should allow you to combine a WordPress and a phpBB forum into a single working site.

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Re: UrbanMSP/streets.mn merger

Postby Nick » November 5th, 2014, 6:38 pm

The thing that I have been told is that, with streets.mn's host, WP Engine, we're not able to have anything but WordPress? Is that not correct? I know almost nothing about anything.

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Re: UrbanMSP/streets.mn merger

Postby FISHMANPET » November 5th, 2014, 8:28 pm

The answer is most likely "it depends." I don't know what the tech level is of the board, and I don't deal with web apps on a day to day basis, but I am a computer guy, and I wouldn't mind talking (here or otherwise) about options going forward. But that's only I'm the smartest guy in the room on this, which isn't likely.

Based on a few minutes glance at WP Engine, you may be correct Nick, but ultimately it comes down to a question of what exactly are you trying to do (PROBLEM STATEMENT).

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Re: UrbanMSP/streets.mn merger

Postby mulad » November 6th, 2014, 8:17 am

Hmm. Rather than integrating the sites into one, maybe the forum just needs to move into the same DNS domain -- rename urbanmsp.com to forum.streets.mn. It should be possible to have the two pieces remain with different hosting providers.

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Re: UrbanMSP/streets.mn merger

Postby mplsjaromir » November 6th, 2014, 8:21 am

mulad wrote:Hmm. Rather than integrating the sites into one, maybe the forum just needs to move into the same DNS domain -- rename urbanmsp.com to forum.streets.mn. It should be possible to have the two pieces remain with different hosting providers.
Hopefully this can happen. This may be a shocking revaltion to some, but the Street.mn comment system is useless beyond 10 comments.

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Re: UrbanMSP/streets.mn merger

Postby FISHMANPET » November 6th, 2014, 8:42 am

Changing the URL of the forums wouldn't in any way change the WordPress comment system currently in place.

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Re: UrbanMSP/streets.mn merger

Postby mplsjaromir » November 6th, 2014, 8:44 am

I don't really care what happens to Street.mn, as long as this forum stays somewhat similar I will be content.

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Re: UrbanMSP/streets.mn merger

Postby Pip » November 6th, 2014, 2:38 pm

Nick wrote:The thing that I have been told is that, with streets.mn's host, WP Engine, we're not able to have anything but WordPress? Is that not correct? I know almost nothing about anything.
You should be able to be able to run WordPress and phpBB on the same domain unless you have a really restrictive hosting plan. I run both WordPress and phpBB on several domains without issue. They just require different SQL databases. For the short term, I would recommend upgrading the streets.mn comments section to Disqus. It's not perfect but it's an upgrade and allows people to use their FB and Twitter accounts to post and such.

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Re: UrbanMSP/streets.mn merger

Postby FISHMANPET » November 6th, 2014, 3:03 pm

From what I can tell, WPEngine is offering WordPress aaS (as a service) rather than providing you a server to install whatever software you want. So they most likely don't have the capability to install PHBB on the same server that runs the blog (not that it's a good idea anyway). As far as integration between the two, again it depends on what exactly is trying to be accomplished, and the capabilities of their hosting service.

But yeah, ditching the WordPress comments would not be a bad idea. I don't think forcing people to register on the forums and having all article discussion happen there would be good either, but there has to be some kind of middle ground.

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Re: UrbanMSP/streets.mn merger

Postby twincitizen » November 6th, 2014, 3:36 pm

I am intrigued by the idea of having Disqus for comments on streets.mn

I think a lot of people would appreciate that change.

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Re: UrbanMSP/streets.mn merger

Postby mulad » November 6th, 2014, 4:25 pm

Yeah, but tracking. And potentially giving Disqus the permission to do nasty things to your FB/Twitter/etc. account (at least Facebook lets me prevent them from posting to my wall if they should decide to do that, but I have to let them learn other things about me).

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Re: UrbanMSP/streets.mn merger

Postby Viktor Vaughn » November 6th, 2014, 4:29 pm

Please do not change to Disque commenting. Not everybody has facebook or twitter, believe it or not.

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Re: UrbanMSP/streets.mn merger

Postby mattaudio » November 6th, 2014, 4:46 pm

Some of us have disqus accounts....

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Re: UrbanMSP/streets.mn merger

Postby twincitizen » November 6th, 2014, 6:46 pm

Also, you can sign into disqus with an email account, so I'm not sure what ppl are resisting

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Re: UrbanMSP/streets.mn merger

Postby Silophant » November 6th, 2014, 9:45 pm

-1 for Disqus commenting. If Streets.mn and Minnpost both switched to it, I'd be a happy camper.


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