800 Washington Ave S (Guthrie Ramp liner development: Reloaded)

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Re: 800 Washington Ave S (Guthrie Ramp liner development: Reloaded)

Postby John » July 11th, 2018, 2:52 pm

Agree, the Sherman proposal is nice and if its chosen that's fine. As far as the trees in the pocket gardens of AECOM, they would be consistently be well maintained by the condo association, with the species carefully chosen to be hardy enough to thrive in their constrained environment. It will be less neglected, and probably better planned/ thought out than Nicollet Mall ;)

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Re: 800 Washington Ave S (Guthrie Ramp liner development: Reloaded)

Postby jtoemke » July 12th, 2018, 6:29 am

Seth wrote:
July 11th, 2018, 2:36 pm
Not that it's a make or break factor, but I'm puzzled at the comments saying the trees on the AECOM project won't survive. LPM and Nic on 5th are both supporting 2+ story trees on their roof decks. As long as the right cultivars are selected and proper measures are taken to enable their success, I don't see why it wouldn't work here as well.
I don't think they are saying its impossible, its just more difficult to keep them alive the farther from the ground. One reason is wind gets more intense up there and another being that the little bugs that help trees don't like to leave the ground. They get kind of isolated.

That being said, I would be great - they just can't plant and forget about them. It will be a battle.

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Re: 800 Washington Ave S (Guthrie Ramp liner development: Reloaded)

Postby atburns » August 2nd, 2018, 10:40 am

I hadn't seen this rendering of the AECOM proposal before. It was included the The Journal's article: http://www.journalmpls.com/news/develop ... er-parcel/ While I like the Sherman proposal, I think this one stands tall above the rest. It is so different than anything else in the city. Pinstripes would be a nice addition but, as was previously mentioned, there's a decent chance they land in the Dayton's project.

ImageGuthrie liner parcel by Alex Burns, on Flickr

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Re: 800 Washington Ave S (Guthrie Ramp liner development: Reloaded)

Postby thisisdeception » August 2nd, 2018, 10:54 am

atburns wrote:
August 2nd, 2018, 10:40 am
I hadn't seen this rendering of the AECOM proposal before. It was included the The Journal's article: http://www.journalmpls.com/news/develop ... er-parcel/ While I like the Sherman proposal, I think this one stands tall above the rest. It is so different than anything else in the city. Pinstripes would be a nice addition but, as was previously mentioned, there's a decent chance they land in the Dayton's project.

ImageGuthrie liner parcel by Alex Burns, on Flickr
"The building’s design, which features open green spaces and a rooftop garden, stands apart from many of the apartments recently built in the area, which are “pretty vanilla,” Dusek said."

Glad to see someone call out the local developers on this point. A little creativity would be nice to see and shouldn't be such a hassle in a hot area like this.

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Re: 800 Washington Ave S (Guthrie Ramp liner development: Reloaded)

Postby amiller92 » August 2nd, 2018, 12:16 pm

Seth wrote:
July 11th, 2018, 2:36 pm
Not that it's a make or break factor, but I'm puzzled at the comments saying the trees on the AECOM project won't survive. LPM and Nic on 5th are both supporting 2+ story trees on their roof decks. As long as the right cultivars are selected and proper measures are taken to enable their success, I don't see why it wouldn't work here as well.
Those don't have a roof above the trees, do they?

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Re: 800 Washington Ave S (Guthrie Ramp liner development: Reloaded)

Postby Blaisdell Greenway » August 2nd, 2018, 1:12 pm

Having lived in Los Angeles during this decade, I can confirm AECOM has successfully brought the LA infill vibe here to Washington Ave. Reminds me of some of the fancy new stuff going up on the Sunset Strip.

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Re: 800 Washington Ave S (Guthrie Ramp liner development: Reloaded)

Postby MNdible » August 2nd, 2018, 1:23 pm

(The AECOM project was designed by a Minneapolis based architectural firm.)

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Re: 800 Washington Ave S (Guthrie Ramp liner development: Reloaded)

Postby thisisdeception » August 2nd, 2018, 4:45 pm

Doesn't matter if we have the architectural talent locally if local developers won't set their goals higher.

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Re: 800 Washington Ave S (Guthrie Ramp liner development: Reloaded)

Postby John » August 2nd, 2018, 6:15 pm

The AECOM and Sherman proposals are really the only two serious contenders in this RFP. If AECOM has a sound financing plan, and the pragmatic issues of building's design are well thought out, I think they have a good chance of being chosen. If that's not the case, it's a shoo-in for Sherman.

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Re: 800 Washington Ave S (Guthrie Ramp liner development: Reloaded)

Postby Silophant » August 6th, 2018, 10:35 pm

A representative from the city gave the DMNA an update tonight.

Apparently neither office proposal even meets the RFP requirements, as both offer less than Fair Market Value for the land, and neither includes retail as required. So they're out.

As for the other two, the Sherman proposal meets the requirements, but apparently isn't very innovative by whatever metric they're using, while the AECOM proposal meets the requirements and is innovative. So, while the decision isn't official, AECOM is probably going to get the recommendation. They're proposing either the 9 story, 76 unit, 10% affordable option specified in the news articles, or, news to me, a 12 story, 111 unit, 15% affordable option. Either one would have a couple retail tenants, including possibly a 5 Watt Coffee.

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Re: 800 Washington Ave S (Guthrie Ramp liner development: Reloaded)

Postby atburns » August 7th, 2018, 3:11 pm


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Re: 800 Washington Ave S (Guthrie Ramp liner development: Reloaded)

Postby Seth » August 7th, 2018, 3:18 pm

atburns wrote:
August 7th, 2018, 3:11 pm
AECOM officially gets the nod. https://finance-commerce.com/2018/08/mi ... ashington/
Awesome! Hopefully this project is successful.


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