St. Olaf Church Affordable Housing - 800 3rd Ave S

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St. Olaf Church Affordable Housing - 800 3rd Ave S

Postby Silophant » March 31st, 2019, 5:47 pm

St. Olaf Catholic Church is working with Aeon to:

A) rehabilitate the existing supportive housing building on 2nd Ave and 9th St, and add 27 additional units on a portion of the green space next to it.

B) build a new 70-unit affordable housing building on the parking lot on the corner of 3rd Ave and 8th St, with 60 parking spaces for the church's use.

There's some more details in the weekly bulletin.

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Postby Anondson » March 31st, 2019, 6:33 pm

Nice.

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Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Postby Qhaberl » April 1st, 2019, 7:51 am

This is awesome! The more affordable housing we get the better.


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Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Postby twincitizen » April 1st, 2019, 9:36 am

Certainly better than nothing, but remember that St. Olaf's property makes up 3/4 of a skyway-connected block inside the CBD (three blocks closer-in to the core than the Kraus Anderson block!) The "highest and best use" for this block is very, very high.

While I'm sure there are fans of St. Olaf's midcentury building that would be sad to see it go, the best outcome for the city/taxpayers is total redevelopment of the northern half of this block (excluding the 1/4 block occupied by the existing affordable housing and small corner park). The ideal scenario would be St. Olaf finding an existing church building to inhabit or building a new sanctuary in a more marginal corner of downtown (there seem to be like a dozen+ old church buildings downtown - surely not all of them are being utilized to their full extent). That said, even if St. Olaf's current building stays, you could do A LOT more with this 1/4-block parking lot than the 70 units they're planning to put here. For reference, the parking lot area alone is slightly larger than the 4Marq site (30 stories, 262 units). While I don't expect that they would build the 4Marq of affordable housing, this skyway-connected site is the perfect place for a parking-less housing development, with a 'BYO contract parking if you need it' model.

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Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Postby Silophant » April 1st, 2019, 10:35 am

Since it's not going to get going until 2021, the 2040 plan rezoning should be in effect by the time this come up for approval, which includes a 10-story minimum height for the Core 50 downtown district.

Not that I really expect the PC or the Council to not grant a variance to affordable housing that supports a church, but if there's a place that should work for affordable housing to get past the six-story barrier, it's here.

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Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Postby jtoemke » April 1st, 2019, 11:07 am

I like the existing pocket park..

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Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Postby grant1simons2 » April 1st, 2019, 12:58 pm

Do you use it?

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Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Postby jtoemke » April 1st, 2019, 1:09 pm

grant1simons2 wrote:
April 1st, 2019, 12:58 pm
Do you use it?
Seeing as I was relocated to Columbus OH as my profile is displaying at you - obviously the answer is no.

But an 1/8th of a block can be trees. Softens a downtown.

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Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Postby Blaisdell Greenway » April 3rd, 2019, 9:39 am

twincitizen wrote:
April 1st, 2019, 9:36 am
While I'm sure there are fans of St. Olaf's midcentury building that would be sad to see it go,
::raises hand::

We already have one former midcentury church on the edge of downtown that's about to be replaced by a residential tower so I'm cool with the only remaining one altogether in the CBD sticking around.

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Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Postby EOst » April 3rd, 2019, 9:53 am

Not to mention that it's a Roy Thorshov building, and we've been getting rid of those with abandon recently.

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Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Postby HiawathaGuy » April 3rd, 2019, 10:19 am

Blaisdell Greenway wrote:
April 3rd, 2019, 9:39 am
twincitizen wrote:
April 1st, 2019, 9:36 am
While I'm sure there are fans of St. Olaf's midcentury building that would be sad to see it go,
::raises hand::

We already have one former midcentury church on the edge of downtown that's about to be replaced by a residential tower so I'm cool with the only remaining one altogether in the CBD sticking around.
I agree, there's something about an old church amongst the tall downtown buildings. Montreal has some amazing examples of this, like Promenades Cathedrale, with a multi-level shopping mall and a subway station beneath it.

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Re: St. Olaf Affordable Housing - 800 3rd Ave S

Postby Silophant » June 30th, 2020, 6:38 pm

This project is on the DMNA LUC agenda for next week. Apparently Westminster Church is now involved, and the new affordable building will be age-restricted to 55+. I'm hoping that implies that they're going to go bigger than 70 units on that quarter-block, but we'll see.


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