DTE: Wells Fargo, Radisson Red, Edition Apts & Millwright Building

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby mplser » May 7th, 2015, 6:57 pm

I hope it's actually shiny like that. if that's the case I think it will look good

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby bapster2006 » May 7th, 2015, 8:15 pm

The light was getting perfect at this point. You can clearly see the digging for the new apartment building too.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby bapster2006 » May 7th, 2015, 8:17 pm

5 projects going on here. And a train.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby Wedgeguy » May 7th, 2015, 9:12 pm

Was expecting the blank walk to have been more covered up. Did not see a driveway separating the hotel from the WF tower being a part of this plan. Are we expecting a green wall to thrive on a north facing wall of WF??

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby Mcgizz » May 7th, 2015, 9:36 pm

Wedgeguy wrote:Was expecting the blank walk to have been more covered up. Did not see a driveway separating the hotel from the WF tower being a part of this plan. Are we expecting a green wall to thrive on a north facing wall of WF??
I think they may be expecting something to grow there. But let's be honest, nothing will grow there with all the salt they throw down in the winter. On top of that there will be a good supply of exhaust and little sun. In the end there will be a blank concrete wall facing the backside of that Raddison Red forever. But the attempt is valiant, will give them that.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby spearson » May 8th, 2015, 11:28 am

There are plenty of things that grow fine in the shade... And there are plenty of other options to hide a concrete wall, have some optimism!

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby MNdible » May 8th, 2015, 12:38 pm

There certainly are things they can do to conceal that wall -- I'm just surprised that, given the context of that particular site, you'd lay out the mass of the building the way they did. As we'd discussed previously, a C-shaped building with a courtyard opening up onto 3rd Street seems a more obvious site plan.

Anyway, it may be that this is their architectural prototype -- a design idea that can be fairly easily rolled out to multiple sites in different contexts (see the Aloft building on Washington for a similar idea).

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby grant1simons2 » May 8th, 2015, 12:40 pm

Anyone been around here lately during the day? Its so loud and exciting. So much action everywhere

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby widin007 » May 8th, 2015, 2:06 pm

Yeah just biked past for the first time in a while and these buildings really are massive! The renderings didn't do justice to the sheer size of these things

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby Wedgeguy » May 9th, 2015, 8:26 am

It is an interesting look when you are at 2nd where Portland T's up and to look down the forming valley that the WF twins create.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby grant1simons2 » May 9th, 2015, 11:23 am

Will Wells Fargo be vacating their operations center at 255 2nd Ave? The 3 story glass building with the plaza.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby seanrichardryan » May 9th, 2015, 1:33 pm

God I hope so. That building is a blight on the landscape.
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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby grrdanko » May 9th, 2015, 1:37 pm

I don't think that's going anywhere. It's a data center.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby TroyGBiv » May 9th, 2015, 3:27 pm

The majority of that data center is underground - I think maybe 4 or 5 floors down.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby Wedgeguy » May 9th, 2015, 4:53 pm

TroyGBiv wrote:The majority of that data center is underground - I think maybe 4 or 5 floors down.
They have too much invested in the technology of that building. One of the pluses of the data center is it is a nice secure building compared to the WF Twins.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby seanrichardryan » May 9th, 2015, 9:21 pm

It is a suck on the streetlife. Could they move it to the burbs instead? OR build something lovely surrounding it? Encapsulate the bastard.
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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby grrdanko » May 10th, 2015, 11:04 am

The reason data centers are usually in central locations is because they need to be in close proximity to the communication hubs. Usually downtown areas.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby TroyGBiv » May 10th, 2015, 7:15 pm

It is an interesting thought though - is that land underutilized - could they sell "air-rights" for development? NYC and SF seem to be the two markets where that is economically justified.

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Re: Downtown East Project (Ryan Companies / Wells Fargo)

Postby grant1simons2 » May 10th, 2015, 7:35 pm

Chicago did it as well for one of their large data centers


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