4Marq - 400 Marquette Ave (313' - 30 Stories)

Downtown - North Loop - Mill District - Elliot Park - Loring Park
John
Capella Tower
Posts: 2256
Joined: May 31st, 2012, 2:06 pm

Re: 4Marq - (400 Marquette Avenue)

Postby John » October 1st, 2013, 11:02 am

min-chi-cbus wrote:It's for that very reason that I'm against the Gateway Park taking up so much Nicollet Mall frontage. A report came out just yesterday saying that average office rents on Nicollet are over $30.00/SF, up over 50% in just two years. Why pave the remaining lots on Nicollet over with park space with prices that high? I'm not saying I don't want or like parks, but I don't know that I agree with the plan for a park HERE.
You raise a valid point. I do think there should be a major diagonal green space to extend Nicoller Mall to Hennepin, but a majority of the park land could be made into a commercial development. It's a waste of prime real estate and tax revenue for the city. Also, I'm skeptical about our city's ability to maintain it. And then there's the criminal element the new park will in inevitably attract. The city doesn't appear to be able to control the security at 7th and Nicollet or the loitering of drug dealers in front of the Library. How will they keep the Gateway Park safe?

Back to Marq4, I'm wondering if anybody has the ability confirm the new height or addition of 4 stories?

kregger22

Re: 4Marq - (400 Marquette Avenue)

Postby kregger22 » October 1st, 2013, 12:51 pm

Here we are, on October 1st & 15 pages deep into the 4Marq thread, and no one has heard anything substantiating that this project is going to be off the ground anytime soon. It would be nice if there were knowledge to support this building at least getting off the ground before 14'.

nordeast homer
US Bank Plaza
Posts: 709
Joined: June 1st, 2012, 11:11 am

Re: 4Marq - (400 Marquette Avenue)

Postby nordeast homer » October 1st, 2013, 6:30 pm

kregger22 wrote:Here we are, on October 1st & 15 pages deep into the 4Marq thread, and no one has heard anything substantiating that this project is going to be off the ground anytime soon. It would be nice if there were knowledge to support this building at least getting off the ground before 14'.
Go ahead and re-read the first half of the LPM thread where everyone was bemoaning the same things. Be patient.
This will happen. They only announced it this summer, they need time to get all of the RFP's then secure financing, start ordering product, etc. These things take some time. Mortenson is big, but has a lot of irons in the fire right now, it may even come down to when they have a team available to run the project.

Didier
Capella Tower
Posts: 2448
Joined: June 3rd, 2012, 10:11 am
Location: MSP

Re: 4Marq - (400 Marquette Avenue)

Postby Didier » October 4th, 2013, 6:03 am

I agree that it would have been great if we combined all of the buildings into one tall, narrow building surrounded by a parking lot.

m b p
Nicollet Mall
Posts: 198
Joined: September 3rd, 2012, 5:46 pm

Re: 4Marq - (400 Marquette Avenue)

Postby m b p » October 21st, 2013, 4:26 am

Here's a 'more detailed' version of 4 marq for google earth... if anyone would like:
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/ ... 45&ct=mdsa
The model takes a few minutes to load. For quick future access, right click (in the tab on the left) and 'save to my places' in google earth.

Image

bubzki2
US Bank Plaza
Posts: 746
Joined: September 19th, 2012, 5:38 pm
Location: Snelling-Hamline

Re: 4Marq - (400 Marquette Avenue)

Postby bubzki2 » October 21st, 2013, 8:07 am

Forgive me if I missed it on the earlier pages of this thread, but looking at that model, are the two buildings' pedestals officially going to integrate that smoothly? Or is this merely an educated guess?

go4guy
Foshay Tower
Posts: 911
Joined: June 4th, 2012, 8:54 am

Re: 4Marq - (400 Marquette Avenue)

Postby go4guy » October 21st, 2013, 8:11 am

I believe 4 Marq has a taller pedestal, so it looks to be one on this model is the nearer 4 marq is taller than Nic. But I could be completely wrong.

min-chi-cbus
Capella Tower
Posts: 3131
Joined: June 1st, 2012, 9:19 am

Re: 4Marq - (400 Marquette Avenue)

Postby min-chi-cbus » October 21st, 2013, 9:59 am

That is so cool, thanks!

I see another potential redevelopment opportunity on the corner of the block directly across Marquett from 4Marq, which appears to be a 3-4 story parking ramp.

User avatar
Nathan
IDS Center
Posts: 4005
Joined: June 1st, 2012, 10:42 am

Re: 4Marq - (400 Marquette Avenue)

Postby Nathan » October 21st, 2013, 10:29 am

The development on this block demonstrates why I dislike developers with super blocks ala the star tribune blocks. These three buildings are all going to be so different but have a really great urban context. Meanwhile I think the strib blocks plan will seem monotonous. I'm excited for it all, I just like to see parcels interpreted within their context and creative uses for space.

User avatar
Nick
Capella Tower
Posts: 3015
Joined: May 30th, 2012, 9:33 pm
Location: Loring Park, Minneapolis

Re: 4Marq - (313' - 30 Stories)

Postby Nick » October 27th, 2013, 12:13 pm

I'm just going to point out that someone 1) posted a "rumor" on this thread that the building was going to be four stories taller than initially proposed, 2) edited Wikipedia to reflect that, linking back to this site, and then 3) posted on this site that Wikipedia said the building was going to be four stories taller. Let's...rise above that, if possible.

Minnekid
Nicollet Mall
Posts: 118
Joined: August 21st, 2013, 12:23 am

Re: 4Marq - (313' - 30 Stories)

Postby Minnekid » October 27th, 2013, 2:19 pm

^The funny thing is that someone went through all the effort to do that.

MS3

Re: 4Marq - (313' - 30 Stories)

Postby MS3 » October 27th, 2013, 2:36 pm

It was me. MS3, not someone. I deliver construction equipment to job sites and when I'm there I ask a lot of questions to supers and workers. That's where "I heard" about the change from 30 to 34 stories. at a construction job site. Then I posted what I heard only AFTER another person posted hearing about the additional 4 stories added also. As far as Wikipedia goes, I have no clue who set up that or how wikipedia works. So the "someone" is more than one. There's a lot of "I heard" postings on here. If that's offense then your problems are personal. this isn't the Marine core, (trust me) its a forum. If someone posts something they heard and it speculates into a rumor, so what? Until we know for sure, all we have to go buy is- I heard, opinions, and rumors.
It's Been nice communicating with you all... MS3

Tyler
Foshay Tower
Posts: 881
Joined: June 1st, 2012, 10:10 am

Re: 4Marq - (313' - 30 Stories)

Postby Tyler » October 27th, 2013, 3:04 pm

Nick wrote:I'm just going to point out that someone 1) posted a "rumor" on this thread that the building was going to be four stories taller than initially proposed, 2) edited Wikipedia to reflect that, linking back to this site, and then 3) posted on this site that Wikipedia said the building was going to be four stories taller. Let's...rise above that, if possible.
Unless you have proof it was the same person this is a pretty lame ass post.
Towns!

John
Capella Tower
Posts: 2256
Joined: May 31st, 2012, 2:06 pm

Re: 4Marq - (313' - 30 Stories)

Postby John » October 27th, 2013, 3:23 pm

Being the geek I am, I emailed Mortenson to inquire about the correct height and number of floors. I'll get back if they reply.

m b p
Nicollet Mall
Posts: 198
Joined: September 3rd, 2012, 5:46 pm

Re: 4Marq - (313' - 30 Stories)

Postby m b p » October 27th, 2013, 4:48 pm

is that why this was locked for days? because someone heard a rumor and posted it? that's pretty lame (that it would be locked for that). Because of your scolding, If anyone hears anything about anything in the future... do you think they are more or less apt to post it here?

Thanks for deleting everyone's posts too.

User avatar
Nick
Capella Tower
Posts: 3015
Joined: May 30th, 2012, 9:33 pm
Location: Loring Park, Minneapolis

Re: 4Marq - (313' - 30 Stories)

Postby Nick » October 27th, 2013, 5:02 pm

You knooooow, I'm just going to say that I, personally, have spent quite a bit of time putting together a website for people to use. Including, but not limited to, spending whole days walking/biking around the city(ies) taking photos, working on the not un-complicated back end of the forum, organizing posts and threads, looking through news/government websites, and so on. And it's fun! I like biking and I like looking at cranes, and I realize that the site is mostly the result of other peoples' efforts. But the outrage - outrage! - that gets displayed by a handful of people whenever I feel like maybe, just maybe, there should be a bare minimum level of quality in conversation is just ridiculous. I realize that sometimes some of my moderation is a little shitty Millennial/snarky, and probably doesn't always translate in writing. But frankly, I've met probably the majority of regular posters and almost all of the contributing regular posters, as well as many lurkers who've mentioned the site to me in passing in real life, and so far no one is really complaining that much. I would say the "why are people talking in circles about whether or not a building is on the 17th or 18th floor for three pages??" comments probably outweigh "you're a fascist" comments, in that I've heard the former more than once and the latter zero times.

Just...realize that the reason the forum is here is not for any one person to broadcast their stream of consciousness into the world. There are many, many other online outlets for that.

NickP
Rice Park
Posts: 400
Joined: June 4th, 2012, 5:00 pm

Re: 4Marq - (313' - 30 Stories)

Postby NickP » October 27th, 2013, 6:08 pm

Word! Well said Nick.

minnyapple
Nicollet Mall
Posts: 136
Joined: February 24th, 2013, 11:32 pm

Re: 4Marq - (313' - 30 Stories)

Postby minnyapple » November 13th, 2013, 10:57 pm

This one should finally get going in December. An excerpt from the Star Tribune is below.

From Star Trib "Mortenson Development plans to build a 30-story, 262-unit apartment tower called 4Marq at the corner of 4th Street and Marquette Avenue S. to complete the block. Mortenson spokesman Cameron Snyder said the company just notified the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency that it plans to begin work in December."

Full article: Apartments galore on northern end of Minneapolis' Nicollet Mall http://www.startribune.com/local/minnea ... 41201.html

John
Capella Tower
Posts: 2256
Joined: May 31st, 2012, 2:06 pm

Re: 4Marq - (313' - 30 Stories)

Postby John » November 14th, 2013, 2:16 pm

^^^ I get what your saying Mini-chi-bus, but at 30 stories, Marq4 is still more slender and taller than Nic on Fifth and will actually help downplay it's neighbor's stumpy design. I think you really have to envision this block in it entirety with all the projects completed. No, none of the buildings have much impact the skyline, but it does create good infill with a strong urban wall effect at the street level. And I think it's important to remember this block was a complete dead zone for decades and contributed nothing to our city . Now be patient. There will likely be more ambitious projects sprouting up nearby which we will learn more about next year.

widin007
Nicollet Mall
Posts: 147
Joined: November 3rd, 2012, 4:07 pm

Re: 4Marq - (313' - 30 Stories)

Postby widin007 » November 14th, 2013, 3:15 pm

minnyapple wrote:This one should finally get going in December. An excerpt from the Star Tribune is below.

From Star Trib "Mortenson Development plans to build a 30-story, 262-unit apartment tower called 4Marq at the corner of 4th Street and Marquette Avenue S. to complete the block. Mortenson spokesman Cameron Snyder said the company just notified the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency that it plans to begin work in December."
To build on this, I was with a friend Saturday who works for Mortenson and even in my state of "drunken stupor", thanks cc club, I remember him saying December as well for this, so almost ready!


Return to “Minneapolis - Downtown”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: samuelmcchesney and 2 guests