Re: New Target Building - (1001 Nicollet Mall)
Posted: September 13th, 2012, 3:27 pm
Hopefully they respond to the demand and add legitimate showers to their restrooms. It's such a shame that all the bums end up having to use the sinks.
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should we call up sesame street on Target for STEALING the word of the day? I also would agree the story was poorly written thought I wonder if it is true they are refusing to turn over the sign to the rightful owner. Which if so it would be a illgeal use of the word IThttp://blogs.citypages.com/gimmenoise/2 ... target.php
I'm sorry but this story is just plain stupid......
Naw but f'real, I wish they'd get rid of the damn bench out front...Hopefully they respond to the demand and add legitimate showers to their restrooms. It's such a shame that all the bums end up having to use the sinks.
A new Target office building has never included either The Handicraft Building or WCCO. The part of the block that would be redeveloped are the two buildings along Nicollet Mall ( currently being renovated), and the side lot ( along 10th Street) now being converted into a private outdoor park/ plaza. Yes, they could build a 60 story building there if they wanted to as the site is large enough. And what they mean by "in the near future" can be interpreted different ways. My hunch is possibly 5-10 years from now.so...they're spending millions of dollars to renovate this building for employee amenities only to tear it down for a 60 story skyscraper "in the near future"? umm ok.
and that wcco building isn't going anywhere. it's one of the best designed buildings downtown. and it actually looks like a television station occupies it. 30 years on and it still fronts that corner wonderfully.
Yes, they (Target) could IF they wanted to, but IMO, they will end up forcing the city of Minneapolis to face off against one of its 300+ communities / suburbs for subsidies. That said, my hunch is that Target will never build a 60-story building in downtown MPLS. Actually, I don't ever see downtown MPLS with a 60-story tower or anything that surpasses the "big" three in height.Yes, they could build a 60 story building there if they wanted to as the site is large enough. And what they mean by "in the near future" can be interpreted different ways. My hunch is possibly 5-10 years from now.
I bet when the Foshay was built , everybody thought there would never be a building taller than that one in Minneapolis!. The idea was almost unfathomable. I am not convinced of your argument. For example, Hines owns the 10th and Marquette block, and I suspect they have big intentions for that site when the timing is right. And I wouldn't rule out Target building something big. They are wealthy and growing, and will likely be a global retail chain in the future. I can't imagine a corporation of that stature not wanting to project a bolder image for their headquarters. I doubt they would build a pip-squeak (a la Xcel Energy) building downtown.Yes, they (Target) could IF they wanted to, but IMO, they will end up forcing the city of Minneapolis to face off against one of its 300+ communities / suburbs for subsidies. That said, my hunch is that Target will never build a 60-story building in downtown MPLS. Actually, I don't ever see downtown MPLS with a 60-story tower or anything that surpasses the "big" three in height.Yes, they could build a 60 story building there if they wanted to as the site is large enough. And what they mean by "in the near future" can be interpreted different ways. My hunch is possibly 5-10 years from now.
Unity is right, IMO. We know that both Wells Fargo and Capella were designed to be taller than IDS. Much taller, in fact. Both between 900' - 1,100'. Now we have three that are pretty much the exact same height? And Capella put the halo on top to sneakily take the "tallest" crown only to have IDS get "permission" of sorts to include some rooftop elevator shaft and the antennas in their height list? For lack of a better term, it was an architectural dick measuring contest and I doubt they (whomever they are) will let Target walk in and swing the biggest one around the room, without raising a stink.I bet when the Foshay was built , everybody thought there would never be a building taller than that one in Minneapolis!. The idea was almost unfathomable. I am not convinced of your argument. For example, Hines owns the 10th and Marquette block, and I suspect they have big intentions for that site when the timing is right. And I wouldn't rule out Target building something big. They are wealthy and growing, and will likely be a global retail chain in the future. I can't imagine a corporation of that stature not wanting to project a bolder image for their headquarters. I doubt they would build a pip-squeak (a la Xcel Energy) building downtown.Yes, they (Target) could IF they wanted to, but IMO, they will end up forcing the city of Minneapolis to face off against one of its 300+ communities / suburbs for subsidies. That said, my hunch is that Target will never build a 60-story building in downtown MPLS. Actually, I don't ever see downtown MPLS with a 60-story tower or anything that surpasses the "big" three in height.Yes, they could build a 60 story building there if they wanted to as the site is large enough. And what they mean by "in the near future" can be interpreted different ways. My hunch is possibly 5-10 years from now.
Sounds crazy, but that is the plan. 5-7 years. No idea how tall the new building will be, but know for certain they are trying to acquire the WCCO building. $15 M is a drop in the bucket for Target.so...they're spending millions of dollars to renovate this building for employee amenities only to tear it down for a 60 story skyscraper "in the near future"? umm ok.
and that wcco building isn't going anywhere. it's one of the best designed buildings downtown. and it actually looks like a television station occupies it. 30 years on and it still fronts that corner wonderfully.
I think that the IDS as the gauge for building height is a relic from the 90's. I think if a proposal came out for a well designed tower of 950 feet ( within the downtown area zoned for skyscrapers) it would be well received by the community. Remember, we actually almost had a 950 foot tower after Norwest bank burned down in the late 80's. It was the developer Oxford Properties who sabotaged the building at the last minute. The bank wanted to build it.I definitely believe there will be a "supertall" proposed in the next few years if the economy holds up. It's inevitable.If Target or Opus or both, build towers downtown they will probably be in the 600'-700' foot range.
Don't you mean the "Burj Khalifa" of Minnesota??It would be like the Sears tower of Minnesota! :