222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby mamundsen » January 3rd, 2013, 3:52 pm

Who knew that the 222 was riverfront property!

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby theroose » January 3rd, 2013, 4:54 pm

I live a block and a half away so I ran down there quick and took a short video of the mess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq4UCT21l1g

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby mplser » January 3rd, 2013, 5:05 pm

I live in stevens square and my water pressure went down for a while. The pressure is back to normal now but it's coming out all yellow and there are actually what looks like bits of dirt coming out. ew...

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby Nick » January 3rd, 2013, 6:04 pm

So I wonder if the underground parking filled up with water? That sounds like a mess. I went down there to take some pictures, and obviously my phone died before I could get any good ones. It was torrenting pretty well down Hennepin toward the river, and it looked like they were trying to keep it moving around where it was puddling, presumably so it wouldn't freeze. What a mess though. I hope Ryan has serious insurance.

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby rufus7 » January 3rd, 2013, 6:24 pm

complimentary gondola service?

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby mplser » January 3rd, 2013, 6:48 pm

I heard there might have been people trapped in the underground ramp of the post office floating around in their cars, so i wouldn't doubt that the basement of 222 filled up. yikes!

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby beykite » January 3rd, 2013, 10:16 pm

What an awesome time it was trying to get off the bridge :?
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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby Didier » January 4th, 2013, 8:59 am

The view today, courtesy of the Journal:

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby min-chi-cbus » January 4th, 2013, 9:25 am

Nick wrote:So I wonder if the underground parking filled up with water? That sounds like a mess. I went down there to take some pictures, and obviously my phone died before I could get any good ones. It was torrenting pretty well down Hennepin toward the river, and it looked like they were trying to keep it moving around where it was puddling, presumably so it wouldn't freeze. What a mess though. I hope Ryan has serious insurance.
I'm not sure insurance covers gross negligence.....they cracked the pipe themselves....

14 MGals of water costs about $126 (assuming $9 an MGal).....which seems too small, so maybe it was 14 million MGals spilled, which would cost $126 million!!

*Edit: Woops! An MGal is 1000 gallons, not a million! So it's directly between the two figures, at $126K in cost for the spill just for the water lost.

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby dmdhashw » January 5th, 2013, 11:52 am

I'm curious as to how much of a setback this will be for the construction of 222.

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby sushisimo » January 5th, 2013, 12:43 pm

I don't think there's been a lick of construction since the water main break, which is two days lost at this point. In the grand scheme of things, not tragic IMO. I'm wondering what the financial ripple effects of this will be. Yikes!

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby twincitizen » January 5th, 2013, 1:18 pm

mplser wrote:I heard there might have been people trapped in the underground ramp of the post office floating around in their cars, so i wouldn't doubt that the basement of 222 filled up. yikes!
Luckily there weren't any people trapped down there, but yeah dozens of cars (perhaps hundreds counting postal trucks) were lost to flood damnage. I forget what the exact number was they threw out, but it was millions of $ (using 25k/car).
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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby Nathan » January 7th, 2013, 11:09 am

That's a great pic, not only to show the water, but to show how much this fill in, and completes the street. So cool to look through and see the ING building and such beyond.

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby beykite » January 7th, 2013, 2:26 pm

Yea this really does knock out a huge surface lot. It's a little shorter than I had thought it'd be, but I'm excited to see it once the tower is done. I just hope that with such a large footprint the exterior can do enough to differentiate itself and add a little diversity to the block.

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby John » January 7th, 2013, 3:35 pm

beykite wrote:Yea this really does knock out a huge surface lot. It's a little shorter than I had thought it'd be, but I'm excited to see it once the tower is done. I just hope that with such a large footprint the exterior can do enough to differentiate itself and add a little diversity to the block.
The two towers anchoring the project on the Hennepin Ave side will give it more stature and height. For me ,the building feels more like it fits the character of North Loop area, and really isn't part of the downtown core. That's just fine as it gives the North Loop neighborhood a nicely defined edge and entrance from downtown. But I think enough is enough with these 6-7 story apartment buildings going up in Mpls. We have a supply of expensive apartments to last our city for at least a few lifetimes.
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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby min-chi-cbus » January 7th, 2013, 4:00 pm

It kind of is more a part of the North Loop than the CBD though. It's where North Loop and the Mills District come together.

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby PhilmerPhil » January 7th, 2013, 4:08 pm

min-chi-cbus wrote:It kind of is more a part of the North Loop than the CBD though. It's where North Loop and the Mills District come together.
Splitting hairs here, but I wouldn't say the Mill District starts until you get to 3rd Ave. S.

More precisely, I'd say it's where the North Loop and Gateway District come together.

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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby woofner » January 7th, 2013, 4:16 pm

I think of the North Loop as the area north of the cut, and the Warehouse District being the area between the cut and Hennepin. So if you asked me, I'd say that 222 straddles the Warehouse District and the Gateway, although I suspect it will end up fitting in better with the latter than the former.
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Re: 222 & Whole Foods - (222 Hennepin Avenue)

Postby nasa35 » January 15th, 2013, 3:25 pm

Drove by this VERY recently. OMFG.

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Not happy with this at all.


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