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Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: September 14th, 2017, 9:37 am
by relux
Part of me wants to think this is a temporary thing as they show perspective tenants? Maybe made for presentation? Allowing any perspective tenants to build it out the way they want?

I just can't believe this could possibly be a finished project.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: September 14th, 2017, 11:33 am
by SurlyLHT
I was curious and just checked this out in person and it was even more hideous. Painting the bricks really didn't work. Overall the place seems disjointed. There's little really connecting the atrium to the rest of the building. It would have been better to have the staircase go to one of the sides instead of straight down and then make the space at the bottom the focal point. Maybe they don't plan on keeping the building itself for super long and this is a placeholder?

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: September 14th, 2017, 12:41 pm
by amiller92
I thought it looks slightly less weird from the bottom, and the staircase is sort of a half-assed attempt to do what they did at the Millwright lobby, but yes, this doesn't work. Not sure how eager people will be to sit on the stairs, though.

There are easels with "coffee or winebar" drawings on them in the corner, so they're obviously hoping someone will rent this space.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: September 14th, 2017, 10:35 pm
by grrdanko
I walked through there today. The pictures don't show how truly horrible this is.

I think the neglected old courtyard was better than this.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: September 15th, 2017, 10:05 am
by seanrichardryan

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: September 15th, 2017, 12:04 pm
by Silophant
From this specific angle, it looks okay. Too bad about all the other angles.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: September 15th, 2017, 12:07 pm
by amiller92
This angle and professional photography/photoshop.

The white painted bricks really don't work, on the walls or on the floor.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: September 15th, 2017, 12:09 pm
by Silophant
Agreed 100%. Though I guess it's proper for it to be ugly/weird inside to match the ugly weirdness of the new windows outside.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: September 16th, 2017, 6:58 pm
by relux
ztr421 wrote:
September 13th, 2017, 9:28 pm
Did they paint the floor at the base of the stairs, too??
I didn't walk down there but I did look again from the skyway level and it appears they did paint the floor too...

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: September 18th, 2017, 10:03 am
by TroyGBiv
Wish they had been able to build the originally proposed building...

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: October 13th, 2017, 12:27 pm
by relux
Some comments in the strib today on this project:

http://www.startribune.com/how-to-and-h ... 450784163/

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: October 14th, 2017, 10:02 am
by anneylani
Taking out the escalators was a poor choice. The staircase eats up way too much space and it is cumbersome with the split for the awkward seating. I don't get the point of the white paint, it looks strange and unfinished with the bottom half still brown. That projector thing is stupid. River kayaking, pacman, and a guy painting a wall are the three scenes I've seen as I pass by. I really can't believe the atrium was closed that long just for those changes.

This space had a lot of potential. I think it'd be nice to have some trees in there like IDS does.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: October 14th, 2017, 11:31 am
by Homewood2009
Naf Naf Grill is now open. All the glass really opens it up and it's nice and bright. Hopefully that will attract some new tennants to fill the Dunn Brothers and Subway spaces that are still empty. Jury is still out on the remodeled atrium, the new staircase takes up a lot of space.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: October 31st, 2017, 11:22 am
by relux
Little late posting this, but awhile ago I noticed theres a graffiti wall now.
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Even better, the projector now shows shaky go pro video of the wall being painted.
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I honestly feel that they are trolling now...?

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: October 31st, 2017, 11:45 am
by MattW
Putting a projector image on a white wall works in your basement, but in a renovation that you're trying to show off? Get a screen up there ASAP. Just a half baked attempt, like everything else in this "upgrade."

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: October 31st, 2017, 11:48 am
by Silophant
Imagine how bad of a job building a skyscraper these guys would have done.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: October 31st, 2017, 1:26 pm
by MattW
:lol: :lol: Maybe we got lucky

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: December 20th, 2017, 11:39 am
by relux
It appears they are having a hard time getting anyone in this building. All I have heard of is IT firm Field Nation, I forget how much space they are taking up though. Awhile ago they put covers on the windows trying to sell on the "Creative Dynamic Space" idea.

While Naf Naf Grill opened, Subway, Dunn Brothers and most recently Brueggers have all closed and the spaces are still empty. Hoping Ginelli's Pizza doesn't go anywhere...

One thing that bothers me most about the "renovation" is the way the white wall lines up when you're walking towards it in the skyways. It looks so unfinished.
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Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: December 21st, 2017, 8:39 am
by spearson
Such a half-assed looking renovation, definitely seems like a holdover until a realistic redevelopment comes along.

Re: TCF Bank Building Redevelopment

Posted: December 21st, 2017, 10:03 am
by SurlyLHT
Does the top floor in this building have high ceilings, or is that just the appearance from the exterior? I notice people actually use the atrium which is nice. I hope this project is just a placeholder and in 10 years we'll get a tower proposal. The space should be worth a lot then during the next building boom with all the surface lots we've lost.