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Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 11th, 2018, 2:48 pm
by Silophant
Big night for downtown development news on this coming Tuesday:

The CPC will have the public hearing and approval vote for:
501 7th St S (6-story apartment building on the last Thrivent lot)
8th St Apartments (16-story apartment building on the Wells Fargo branch site)
240 Hennepin (21-story apartment building at Washington and Hennepin)
240 Park Ave (17-story apartment building at Washington and Park)
Gateway Tower (Not sure what this is, haven't heard much about it)
A bunch of not-downtown stuff

The CPC meeting starts at 4:30 and will probably go until about 11.

Meanwhile, the DMNA Land Use Committee will be seeing updates on:

800 Washington (9-12 story condo building on the Guthrie Ramp liner parcel)
240 Portland (22-story apartment tower, 6 story affordable apartment building, parking ramp, and fire station at Portland/Washington/3rd/5th)
Ryan Block 1 (25-story apartment tower on the stadium ramp liner parcel)
A few plazas, parking lots, and liquor licenses

This one starts at 6 and will probably go to 9:30 or 10.

Hold onto your butts.

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 11th, 2018, 6:40 pm
by alexschief
This week's Planning Commission submissions:

Outside Downtown —
Units: 243

Parking Spaces: 125
Ratio: 0.514 park/unit

Bike Parking Spaces: 244
Ratio: 1.00 bike park/unit

Downtown —
Units: 1082

Parking Spaces: 991
Ratio: 0.915 park/unit

Bike Parking Spaces: 806
Ratio: .745 bike park/unit

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 11th, 2018, 7:05 pm
by Silophant
It may be too late in the development cycle for it to really matter, but I really want City Club to finish up, fill instantly, and provide an example of a parking-free DT tower for lenders to look at and realize is feasible.

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 16th, 2018, 5:49 pm
by Anondson

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 17th, 2018, 9:57 am
by NickP
This bums me out. To be honest though, I haven’t seen much different between this and the southwest journal for a couple years. Has anyone else? I wonder if they could just combine the news for both under one banner?

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 17th, 2018, 4:54 pm
by VacantLuxuries
Not really liking the "Millennial renters don't care about their community" angle the owners seem to be taking as the reason they're closing.

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 17th, 2018, 5:23 pm
by grant1simons2
Silophant wrote:
November 11th, 2018, 2:48 pm
Big night for downtown development news on this coming Tuesday:

The CPC will have the public hearing and approval vote for:
501 7th St S (6-story apartment building on the last Thrivent lot)
8th St Apartments (16-story apartment building on the Wells Fargo branch site)
240 Hennepin (21-story apartment building at Washington and Hennepin)
240 Park Ave (17-story apartment building at Washington and Park)
Gateway Tower (Not sure what this is, haven't heard much about it)
A bunch of not-downtown stuff

The CPC meeting starts at 4:30 and will probably go until about 11.

Meanwhile, the DMNA Land Use Committee will be seeing updates on:

800 Washington (9-12 story condo building on the Guthrie Ramp liner parcel)
240 Portland (22-story apartment tower, 6 story affordable apartment building, parking ramp, and fire station at Portland/Washington/3rd/5th)
Ryan Block 1 (25-story apartment tower on the stadium ramp liner parcel)
A few plazas, parking lots, and liquor licenses

This one starts at 6 and will probably go to 9:30 or 10.

Hold onto your butts.
... So what happened? Interested in the reception of 800 Washington and the Ryan block.

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 19th, 2018, 11:02 am
by fehler
Planning commission actions from 11-13-18 meeting: http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/meeting ... MSP-215398

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 19th, 2018, 12:03 pm
by grant1simons2
Thanks, but these project were at the DMNA meeting that I know a few here attended.

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 19th, 2018, 12:36 pm
by Silophant
Oh, I totally forgot to update!

Ryan Block 1: not much info that wasn't in the COW packet, with the exception that they will be building an amenity deck over the section of the ramp that was reinforced for additional levels on top. I asked about why the ground-floor parking had to be accessed from the street instead of from the ramp like upper floors, and was told that the ramp has a sloped floor on that portion of the ground floor, so there's no way to get the vehicle connection. Hopefully the Planning Commission can talk then out of it.

Nothing new about 240 Portland. They're hoping to go to the CPC after the first of the year.

Bus Stop Brewhouse looks really cool, and is apparently intending to be open for next Sunday's Vikings game. I'll believe it when I see it.

Lotta info on 800 Washington - I'll have to dig out my notes tonight.

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 21st, 2018, 8:25 pm
by Minnehahaha
Silophant wrote:
November 19th, 2018, 12:36 pm

Bus Stop Brewhouse looks really cool, and is apparently intending to be open for next Sunday's Vikings game. I'll believe it when I see it.
Given that this is how the place looked on Tuesday, I expect that won't be happening. But I am really looking forward to the end results!
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Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 21st, 2018, 8:32 pm
by Silophant
The public hearing for their liquor license isn't until next week, so if they open Sunday, they'll be a brewhouse that can't serve beer. Cool to see the bus there, though!

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 30th, 2018, 1:19 pm
by SurlyLHT
Anyone else lamenting that the Ichiban site is still vacant? It kinds kills the activity on that end of the mall. Even if the building is torn down it'll be great to have this corner activated!

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 30th, 2018, 4:51 pm
by twinkess
I really hope the building isn't torn down, it is (dare I say it) ICONIC!!!

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 30th, 2018, 7:53 pm
by mnmike
SurlyLHT wrote:
November 30th, 2018, 1:19 pm
Anyone else lamenting that the Ichiban site is still vacant? It kinds kills the activity on that end of the mall. Even if the building is torn down it'll be great to have this corner activated!
Always...and every other vacant spot along Nicollet...and the fact that there hasn't been any news in the "downtown retail" thread since July. Nicollet still just sits with so much empty space. Maybe next spring will be the time...with the Dayton's project moving along.

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: December 3rd, 2018, 9:47 am
by alexschief
Five multi-family buildings, all outside of downtown, go before the Planning Commission today, and it's a bad day for the "Where will they park?" lobby.

Units: 352

Parking Spaces: 229
Ratio: 0.65 park/unit

Bike Parking Spaces: 588
Ratio: 1.67 bike park/unit

I have to say that I find it somewhat curious that buildings proposed outside of downtown tend to have much less parking per unit than buildings proposed in downtown, despite downtown's superior transit connectivity. It's definitely a product of developers relying on street parking to accommodate any overflows in buildings outside of downtown. There's also definitely a difference in the type of building being built—smaller multifamily and midrise buildings can't accommodate as much structured parking, but high rises can—and the targeted market. I also wonder if the ongoing lack of retail and neighborhood amenities downtown is playing a role as well. Though this is changing, it still feels easier to get some basic goods and services within a south Minneapolis neighborhood than it does downtown.

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: December 3rd, 2018, 10:29 am
by Multimodal
I imagine it has a lot to do with what developers can profitably charge for. After all, that’s their primary goal.

Anecdotally, I know a number of suburbanites who retired/downsized to condos/apts downtown. This clientele is probably willing & able to buy/rent more car parking, at least *thinking* they’ll need it.

If true, it would be interesting to see if in-building parking utilization goes down over time, as former suburban residents realize they can become a car lite household.

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: December 3rd, 2018, 10:46 am
by Silophant
Downtown's strange. At a neighborhood level, it's in good shape, with a full-size Target, two CVSs, and a Lunds that's open til midnight. But the Target is perfectly placed to be about as far from as many residents as possible, the Lunds is only 5 blocks away, and the Hennepin Avenue CVS is between them. A convenience store/pharmacy somewhere along Washington Ave S would be huge for the area, but I'm sure all the new developments will be trying for upscale restaurants.

I think you're right about

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: December 3rd, 2018, 10:58 am
by Tyler
In this market, people with money own cars and use them.

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: December 3rd, 2018, 11:20 am
by Nathan
People with money can also 2 hour Amazon most things to their apartment, I don't think the concept of having a car is directly related to where retail is. People want the independence and autonomy associated with it, it's very ingrained and will take generations to change.