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Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 18th, 2015, 1:46 pm
by grant1simons2
Idk... I actually kind of puts me at ease that someone is actually thinking about the better of this area more and more.

https://wedompls.org/urban-projects/tunnel-vision/

https://wedompls.org/urban-projects/curb-appeal/

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 18th, 2015, 2:02 pm
by Wedgeguy
grant1simons2 wrote:Idk... I actually kind of puts me at ease that someone is actually thinking about the better of this area more and more.

https://wedompls.org/urban-projects/tunnel-vision/

https://wedompls.org/urban-projects/curb-appeal/
I'd say it would be better to promote each district individually than to confuse people with a mega plot that has 6 separate districts within it. Easier to concentrate on one area as to similar interest, than a bunch of different areas into one huge glob.

Can't wait for the cultural Icon that is the devil's triangle of Hennepin Lyndale above the tunnel!

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 18th, 2015, 2:17 pm
by Silophant
I don't really understand why you see it as such a problem to have one overarching area that contains smaller areas. Even in your previous post delineating the arts, entertainment, gateway, and theatre district, you had the entertainment district being a superset of the theater district and the gateway district. What's one more level?

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 18th, 2015, 2:29 pm
by mog
I was wondering if anyone has read/knows anything about the residential vacancy rate in downtown? I know there was a spike in the beginning of the year, I am curious to see how well the market is absorbing all of the new units.

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 18th, 2015, 2:33 pm
by Wedgeguy
Silophant wrote:I don't really understand why you see it as such a problem to have one overarching area that contains smaller areas. Even in your previous post delineating the arts, entertainment, gateway, and theatre district, you had the entertainment district being a superset of the theater district and the gateway district. What's one more level?
Mainly the shear size and lack of focus. I look at Loring and the Gateway and wonder what do they have in common other than water, river vs lake, and Hennepin Ave. Not really a lot. The Theater District and entertainment district basically over lap each other and have similarities to themselve that do not confuse. Sorry I don't see the Gateway as a part of the entertainment district at all. Odd area created 100 years ago that still has some meaning today as the gateway from Hennepin Ave bridge.

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 18th, 2015, 3:30 pm
by amiller92
Wedgeguy wrote:
Silophant wrote:I don't really understand why you see it as such a problem to have one overarching area that contains smaller areas. Even in your previous post delineating the arts, entertainment, gateway, and theatre district, you had the entertainment district being a superset of the theater district and the gateway district. What's one more level?
Mainly the shear size and lack of focus. I look at Loring and the Gateway and wonder what do they have in common other than water, river vs lake, and Hennepin Ave. Not really a lot. The Theater District and entertainment district basically over lap each other and have similarities to themselve that do not confuse. Sorry I don't see the Gateway as a part of the entertainment district at all. Odd area created 100 years ago that still has some meaning today as the gateway from Hennepin Ave bridge.
I take your point, but I also think there's value in moving away from the thinking the entertainment, arts, theaters and what not should be in separate districts.

That said, this branding makes little sense.

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 18th, 2015, 4:44 pm
by sushisimo
Wedgeguy wrote:
Silophant wrote:I don't really understand why you see it as such a problem to have one overarching area that contains smaller areas. Even in your previous post delineating the arts, entertainment, gateway, and theatre district, you had the entertainment district being a superset of the theater district and the gateway district. What's one more level?
Mainly the shear size and lack of focus. I look at Loring and the Gateway and wonder what do they have in common other than water, river vs lake, and Hennepin Ave. Not really a lot. The Theater District and entertainment district basically over lap each other and have similarities to themselve that do not confuse. Sorry I don't see the Gateway as a part of the entertainment district at all. Odd area created 100 years ago that still has some meaning today as the gateway from Hennepin Ave bridge.
Yes. I don't have a problem with connecting districts into a larger one. I think a better idea of this type of thing would be lumping North Loop, Gateway, and Mill District into a branded area in which to "Eat, Live, Play on the River" or whatever the latest phrase is. WeDo is a hodgepodge. What is the consistent brand message here? Entertainment? Because most of it isn't even that. Is it a palpable, distinct district west of downtown? I don't think so. Not in that boundary shape. I'm on the extreme northern end of WeDo ( :roll: ) and I don't feel like part of the Walker area. The only connective thing is Hennepin Avenue, and like MNdible said, there's no allusion to it. It seems like there is desperation to make some romantic concept of something that stretches to the river. But, I thought that was the idea with Nicollet Mall revamping. Loring Park, up the Mall, through a redone Gateway Park to the river seems like a spine to brand.

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 19th, 2015, 11:20 am
by xandrex
I think I could get behind the name more if it was pronounced “Wee-Doe.” Right now it just feels so forced and as if the name was prepared to be a social media hashtag rather than, you know, an actual district.

I see this one tanking after a few months. The defined area really isn’t a cohesive district in any reasonable way. Maybe it would fare better marketing it as a corridor?

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 21st, 2015, 12:06 pm
by Didier
Just for fun, I stayed in the Marriott last weekend and had a pretty nice view of where the proposed MLS stadium would have gone.

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If you zoom in, you get a nice view of how this site is isolated this site is, wedged between the freeway and the parking ramp/Target Center.

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Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 21st, 2015, 12:11 pm
by Didier
Actually, I think this is more where the stadium would have been.

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Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 21st, 2015, 1:37 pm
by Anondson
Whatever happened to the proposal to build atop that parking garage in those photos?

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 21st, 2015, 8:54 pm
by Wedgeguy
Anondson wrote:Whatever happened to the proposal to build atop that parking garage in those photos?
I think the game of golf is not as popular as it once was. I know there are golf courses that are having financial problems. Probably more due to being over built vs the game has tapered off. I do not believe that the game is growing like it was when they had proposed these facilities. Most likely they could not convince the banks or investors that there was a rock solid investments for the earlier reasons. Golf has kind of priced itself out of many peoples lives now that fees keep going up.

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 21st, 2015, 9:02 pm
by intercomnut
Wedgeguy wrote:
Anondson wrote:Whatever happened to the proposal to build atop that parking garage in those photos?
I think the game of golf is not as popular as it once was. I know there are golf courses that are having financial problems. Probably more due to being over built vs the game has tapered off. I do not believe that the game is growing like it was when they had proposed these facilities. Most likely they could not convince the banks or investors that there was a rock solid investments for the earlier reasons. Golf has kind of priced itself out of many peoples lives now that fees keep going up.
... what?

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 21st, 2015, 9:20 pm
by Wedgeguy
They were planning a golf driving range and a few other things to be built on top of the A ramp. Might have to search golf or A ramp to find the thread that we are talking about.

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 21st, 2015, 10:24 pm
by intercomnut
Wedgeguy wrote:They were planning a golf driving range and a few other things to be built on top of the A ramp. Might have to search golf or A ramp to find the thread that we are talking about.
You know, I honestly had thought you'd posted in the wrong thread somehow because that's just such a ridiculous idea.

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 21st, 2015, 10:49 pm
by Anondson
Heh!

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 22nd, 2015, 12:18 am
by seanrichardryan

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 23rd, 2015, 1:21 pm
by amiller92
Didier wrote:Actually, I think this is more where the stadium would have been.
Keep going to your right. That low building on the very right of the frame is the one that Maguire reportedly had an option to buy and the stadium proposal was supposed to be all the way over next to the bend in Royalston, I think. But you got most of it in this shot.

Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 23rd, 2015, 10:55 pm
by Silophant
This mural, on the (vacant?) building at 10th and Hennepin now appears to be complete. I hope this gets to be a trend, there's a lot more blank walls on Hennepin.

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Re: Downtown Minneapolis General Topics & Development Map

Posted: November 24th, 2015, 9:47 am
by amiller92
Silophant wrote:This mural, on the (vacant?) building at 10th and Hennepin now appears to be complete. I hope this gets to be a trend, there's a lot more blank walls on Hennepin.
That's the former National Camera Exchange building? Still empty last I looked.