The Eclipse

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The Eclipse

Postby MotorCity2TwinCities » January 23rd, 2014, 9:24 am

On 1/30's PC Committee of the Whole Meeting:

2. Eclipse - multiple properties on the block bounded by Washington Ave N, Hennepin Ave, 3rd St N, and 1st Ave N (Discussion)
20-story mixed use building with 360 units and ground floor retail
(Staff: Janelle Widmeier)

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Re: The Eclipse

Postby go4guy » January 23rd, 2014, 9:38 am

FINALLY!!! I wonder if this would include the empty lot as well as the Dolphin Staffing building. Hopefully those two older buildings remain. 20 stories here would be a great fit. I vision 20 stories facing Hennepin, with less where the Dolphin Staffing building is. But what do I know. Great news. Hopefully a lot of glass.

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Re: The Eclipse

Postby go4guy » January 23rd, 2014, 9:42 am

Also, is this in the new taxing capture district for the streetcar line?

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Re: The Eclipse

Postby Silophant » January 23rd, 2014, 9:42 am

Wow. Given that it's about 30 more units than 222 Hennepin, but 4x the height, I'm guessing this is only about a quarter of the block, presumably the unused grassy area on Hennepin. Are there normally preliminary renderings at CoW meetings?

Edit: Missed the "multiple properties" part. I'm now guessing that it'll be similar to the Nic on Fifth, with the tower taking up a quarter of the block, but a parking deck/retail portion extending to another quarter, hopefully along Washington.

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Re: The Eclipse

Postby 5th Ave Guy » January 23rd, 2014, 9:48 am

Keep in mind that IF this is a condo building and it's still Shamrock / Jim Stanton building it, their units are typically larger than the average condo unit.

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Re: The Eclipse

Postby go4guy » January 23rd, 2014, 9:51 am

Just looked at the old project. That included only the current open area, but was still 3 lots. So that could very well still be the new footprint.

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Re: The Eclipse

Postby mister.shoes » January 23rd, 2014, 10:10 am

The staff report document has a trove of renderings, drawings, and other information. Two towers, the one to the north slightly taller than the one to the south. All condos. It's listed as two phases, with the taller of the towers considered phase 2, but only from the 4th through 20th floors. Sounds like the street level retail, parking, and four floors of residential covering the entire site would be common to both phases. Black and gold color scheme, not unlike Stonebridge.

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Re: The Eclipse

Postby FISHMANPET » January 23rd, 2014, 10:20 am

I had my eye on this when it was first proposed 10 years ago and I thought it would be a perfect location, maybe this time around it'll come around at the same time I'm ready to buy.

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Re: The Eclipse

Postby seanrichardryan » January 23rd, 2014, 10:30 am

First reactions: Hooray! *Yawn. Grrr, If Jim Stanton tints the windows on the first floor...
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Re: The Eclipse

Postby John » January 23rd, 2014, 10:39 am

I really want to like this project but its design is problematic. The architecture is too severe in its boxiness. The street level is more introverted than it should be. I'm a little skeptical of the overwhelming dominance of dark colored glass facade. It seems cold and uninviting. Needs some lighter tonality added. The city should recommend some design revisions.
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Re: The Eclipse

Postby mattaudio » January 23rd, 2014, 10:40 am

I think it looks classy with the svelte tan stone lines dominating the view.

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Re: The Eclipse

Postby Tyler » January 23rd, 2014, 10:42 am

seanrichardryan wrote:First reactions: Hooray! *Yawn. Grrr, If Jim Stanton tints the windows on the first floor...
HA! Exactly this.
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Re: The Eclipse

Postby John » January 23rd, 2014, 10:47 am

^^^Yep, the street level is the biggest concern. I'm not sure Stanton or Oertel architects understand the concept of a pedestrian friendly street level. That's lacking in their other projects.

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Re: The Eclipse

Postby Minneboy » January 23rd, 2014, 11:35 am

Any timeline?

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Re: The Eclipse

Postby RailBaronYarr » January 23rd, 2014, 11:39 am

I dunno, only looks like 2 curb cuts for the entire project which is basically half a city block. Retail, lobby, and workout facility facing streets with windows. If the retail is active along the sidewalk and the glass isn't tinted, I'd say this would be a huge addition to Hennepin and 3rd St.

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Re: The Eclipse

Postby Gman12 » January 23rd, 2014, 12:37 pm

It would be great for the area to get this site developed. It is a decievingly large site with a lot of wasted space. I didn't realize how big it was until I walked by it a few years ago.

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Re: The Eclipse

Postby woofner » January 23rd, 2014, 12:42 pm

About the phasing, does it seem correct to interpret that they'll build the podium and the 16-story tower first, then the 20-story tower at some later date? Otherwise what would phase 1 and phase 2 refer to?
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Re: The Eclipse

Postby mister.shoes » January 23rd, 2014, 12:49 pm

That's how I interpreted it. Here's hoping they do both phases at the same time.
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Re: The Eclipse

Postby minnyapple » January 23rd, 2014, 1:01 pm

Here is a little more info from the Biz Journal. http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/b ... condo.html

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Re: The Eclipse

Postby Wedgeguy » January 23rd, 2014, 1:05 pm

go4guy wrote:FINALLY!!! I wonder if this would include the empty lot as well as the Dolphin Staffing building. Hopefully those two older buildings remain. 20 stories here would be a great fit. I vision 20 stories facing Hennepin, with less where the Dolphin Staffing building is. But what do I know. Great news. Hopefully a lot of glass.
I would as the other way around so you have more river views from both the north and south buildings. Also a better step down from taller to the 6 story 222.


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