AC Marriott Hotel - 401 Hennepin Ave (Andrews Hotel site)

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Re: AC Marriott Hotel (401 Hennepin Ave / Andrews Hotel site

Postby jw138 » November 1st, 2015, 10:56 am

TroyGBiv wrote:I think this is on topic... The 90's has been around since I was - well it's been around a long time
Found some history in the City Pages:

http://www.citypages.com/news/the-gay-9 ... ry-6776567

A quote from a prior owner:
The underground tunnels when we owned the place used to go all the way to the courthouse. When we first bought the bar, we walked through the tunnels.
It would be an interesting feature to connect the 90s building to the Marriott via tunnel!!

EDIT: Rats, a further quote:
the tunnels aren't connected anymore across Hennepin Avenue

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Re: AC Marriott Hotel (401 Hennepin Ave / Andrews Hotel site

Postby Mcgizz » November 11th, 2015, 6:44 am

Construction of this building is coming along nicely. They are already pooring the 4th floor. There is not a lot of wasted space on this property. They are constructing this building almost right up to the Lumber Exchange building. I'll try to snap a picture the next time I go through here.

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Re: AC Marriott Hotel (401 Hennepin Ave / Andrews Hotel site

Postby HiawathaGuy » November 11th, 2015, 11:05 am

Webcam link: http://webcampub.multivista.com/index.c ... 5F322AC88A

It's fun to watch this, as it is a tight fit. Like the Hampton Inn on 1st Ave.

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Re: AC Marriott Hotel (401 Hennepin Ave / Andrews Hotel site

Postby bapster2006 » November 12th, 2015, 5:23 pm

I was in the area so I stopped for a photo.

ImageAC Marriott hotel Hennepin Ave 11-12-15 by Matt Bappe, on Flickr

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Re: AC Marriott Hotel (401 Hennepin Ave / Andrews Hotel site

Postby MNdible » November 13th, 2015, 3:46 pm

I'm pleasantly surprised that this is all cast-in-place structure. I assumed that this would be the same weird light-gauge steel structure as the Hampton Inn.

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Re: AC Marriott Hotel (401 Hennepin Ave / Andrews Hotel site

Postby Silophant » November 14th, 2015, 11:51 am

So, did they have to cut a deal with the owners of the Lumber Exchange for blocking their windows, or is that the risk you take when you cut windows into your zero-setback building wall? For the sake of all the other empty lots on Hennepin with similar windows in neighboring buildings, I hope it's the latter.

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Re: AC Marriott Hotel (401 Hennepin Ave / Andrews Hotel site

Postby seanrichardryan » November 14th, 2015, 12:12 pm

I think they're setback a foot or two at the front portion of the building. The other windows face the interior courtyard. When the Andrew's was around, there was a small 1 story building between. It's possible the Lumber Exchange has always had those windows.
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Re: AC Marriott Hotel (401 Hennepin Ave / Andrews Hotel site

Postby MobJob » November 15th, 2015, 11:53 pm

Silophant wrote:So, did they have to cut a deal with the owners of the Lumber Exchange for blocking their windows, or is that the risk you take when you cut windows into your zero-setback building wall? For the sake of all the other empty lots on Hennepin with similar windows in neighboring buildings, I hope it's the latter.
It's possible there is a restrictive covenant or easement that burdens land on which the AC Marriott is being built which could prevent full blockage of the windows. However, that would not be the default. In order for there to be some prohibition on blocking the windows, the current or past owners of the buildings would have had to contracted not to block the windows (in exchange for money no doubt). Such an agreement would "run with the land," and subsequent purchasers of the burdened property (the AC Marriott in this case) would theoretically pay less for the property as a result of the restrictive covenant/easement.

However, in reality, I have no idea how common a restrictive covenant/easement would be in this context.

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Re: AC Marriott Hotel (401 Hennepin Ave / Andrews Hotel site

Postby mplser » January 14th, 2016, 5:47 pm

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Re: AC Marriott Hotel (401 Hennepin Ave / Andrews Hotel site

Postby Architorture » January 15th, 2016, 1:23 pm

With the wrap I can't count the stories. How many more until it tops out?

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Re: AC Marriott Hotel (401 Hennepin Ave / Andrews Hotel site

Postby Nathan » January 15th, 2016, 1:25 pm

It's at 9, there are numbers on the elevator doors! :)

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Postby Nathan » January 15th, 2016, 1:32 pm

This is the view that keeps blowing my mind. Coming into the city in 4th used to be so barren. And now look! Not necessarily super beautiful, but definitely dense.

https://i.imgur.com/VQlTNrL.jpg

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Re: AC Marriott Hotel (401 Hennepin Ave / Andrews Hotel site

Postby Wedgeguy » January 15th, 2016, 1:34 pm

Unless they are still pouring the roof, I think that it was topped off last week. Now it is all finishing work from here on out.

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Re: AC Marriott Hotel (401 Hennepin Ave / Andrews Hotel site

Postby Nathan » January 15th, 2016, 1:41 pm

Maybe I'm overly optimistic, or maybe I'm completely crazy... But I feel like the design has changed since we last saw renderings. It seems there's a set back (where there were none on the last rendering) that heads straight back rather than runs at the angle following Hennepin, as well as some different configuration of things at the corner?

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Postby trigonalmayhem » January 15th, 2016, 2:27 pm

I wonder if that's just how the structural support is laid out? Like ... the majority of it is aligned to the cross-street and just the wedge along Hennepin is constructed after the rest of the floor maybe? So for the top floor there's no need to put the extra supports up or something? /not a structural engineer

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Re: AC Marriott Hotel (401 Hennepin Ave / Andrews Hotel site

Postby mister.shoes » January 19th, 2016, 12:24 am

Nathan wrote:This is the view that keeps blowing my mind. Coming into the city in 4th used to be so barren. And now look! Not necessarily super beautiful, but definitely dense.

https://i.imgur.com/VQlTNrL.jpg
I always hated that view before: a big billboard, that stupid spiral ramp, the ramp on Nicollet, and then crap behind. This new view is soooo much better.
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Re: AC Marriott Hotel (401 Hennepin Ave / Andrews Hotel site

Postby Nathan » February 22nd, 2016, 12:37 pm

Mortenson is building what looks like a really beautiful AC Marriott Tower in Portland... I guess they're worth better construction?

http://lodgingmagazine.com/ac-hotel-to- ... and-debut/

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Re: AC Marriott Hotel (401 Hennepin Ave / Andrews Hotel site

Postby widin007 » February 22nd, 2016, 1:34 pm

It does look better yes, but "tower" is a bit generous, its only 40 feet taller than this one.

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Re: AC Marriott Hotel (401 Hennepin Ave / Andrews Hotel site

Postby Mikey » February 22nd, 2016, 2:11 pm

So, 3 - 4 stories more? The real question is what's the difference in rooms?
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Re: AC Marriott Hotel (401 Hennepin Ave / Andrews Hotel site

Postby Nathan » February 22nd, 2016, 2:39 pm

I'm less concerned about the height as I am the type of construction and the quality of the design and materials.


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