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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby acs » April 4th, 2016, 9:51 pm

TroyGBiv wrote:Please, someone, post, anything! You're killing me!
Don't worry, I managed to grab a shot of the new rendering from the presentation.

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Isn't it just iconic??

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby Nathan » April 4th, 2016, 10:20 pm

Mmmmmmmm... Dusk....

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby Silophant » April 4th, 2016, 10:24 pm

Ah, when they learned about the secret 400' height limit they cut it back to 30'. Classic developer thing to do.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby matthew5080 » April 4th, 2016, 10:38 pm

That's actually very nice by Walmart standards.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby maxbaby » April 5th, 2016, 8:10 am

Business Journal is saying that they want a 5 star hotel with this development. Possibly a Four Seasons. Weird...there is a Four Seasons plane at MSP right now.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby HuskyGrad » April 5th, 2016, 9:34 am

maxbaby wrote:Business Journal is saying that they want a 5 star hotel with this development. Possibly a Four Seasons. Weird...there is a Four Seasons plane at MSP right now.
More on that. Guaranteed this isn't a destination, just maintenance.
http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2015/04/2 ... 00000.html

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby MS3 » April 5th, 2016, 10:35 am

This iconic, reduced in height tower is a modern day luxury version of what's located at 1247 St. Anthony Ave in St. Paul.. It's almost the exact same too.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby MattW » April 5th, 2016, 10:45 am

Anondson wrote:Five star hotel in the mix?

http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/b ... l-for.html
A Four Seasons or Ritz Carlton would be huge! The Twin Cities don't have any true luxury brands. The JW at MOA is up there but still in the "upper-upscale" segment IMO. If this rumor is real, then it's a good sign for the "iconic-ness" of this building because these brands will ONLY locate themselves in iconic buildings.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby seanrichardryan » April 5th, 2016, 10:54 am

MattW wrote:... If this rumor is real, then it's a good sign for the "iconic-ness" of this building because these brands will ONLY locate themselves in iconic buildings.
Well, that's simply not true. I've seen plenty of ugly Four Seasons and Ritz-Carltons in my travels. The Boston Four Seasons comes to mind, as does the Ritz-Carlton in St. Louis.
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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby amiller92 » April 5th, 2016, 11:06 am

MattW wrote:The Twin Cities don't have any true luxury brands.
W, I guess. The Grand, which is a Kimpton property, is luxury as well. Both are boutique, of course.
If this rumor is real, then it's a good sign for the "iconic-ness" of this building because these brands will ONLY locate themselves in iconic buildings.
What SRR said. But it can't hurt.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby matthew5080 » April 5th, 2016, 11:06 am

seanrichardryan wrote:
MattW wrote:... If this rumor is real, then it's a good sign for the "iconic-ness" of this building because these brands will ONLY locate themselves in iconic buildings.
Well, that's simply not true. I've seen plenty of ugly Four Seasons and Ritz-Carltons in my travels. The Boston Four Seasons comes to mind, as does the Ritz-Carlton in St. Louis.
I'm not a big fan of the Four Seasons in Denver either. That's a pretty bland building.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby MattW » April 5th, 2016, 12:28 pm

seanrichardryan wrote:
MattW wrote:... If this rumor is real, then it's a good sign for the "iconic-ness" of this building because these brands will ONLY locate themselves in iconic buildings.
Well, that's simply not true. I've seen plenty of ugly Four Seasons and Ritz-Carltons in my travels. The Boston Four Seasons comes to mind, as does the Ritz-Carlton in St. Louis.
Point taken. I have not spent any significant time in either city. My interactions with these brands have been in APAC, Hong Kong in Shanghai in particular.

However, the W and the Kimpton, while very nice hotels, are not true luxury brands.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby MS3 » April 5th, 2016, 2:42 pm

There is nothing special or iconic about this building regardless of its tenants. It falls way short of all the hype and excitement originally generated for this site.. Which is the typical pattern for Minneapolis... 100% Guaranteed floor count cut down and a new wide and boxy appearance with very little Architectural character as tonight will prove.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby VacantLuxuries » April 5th, 2016, 2:55 pm

Couldn't you have waited the three hours so your negativity wouldn't just be empty speculation?

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby acs » April 5th, 2016, 3:04 pm

VacantLuxuries wrote:Couldn't you have waited the three hours so your negativity wouldn't just be empty speculation?
Actually this way we get the chance to disprove his supposed insider information in about 2 hours.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby MS3 » April 5th, 2016, 3:50 pm

Beauty is clearly in the eye of the beholder. However, no "inside info" is needed to know the track record of floor count reduction in taller buildings built or proposed in Minneapolis in the last 20+ years. It's not negativity it's facts.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby bapster2006 » April 5th, 2016, 4:40 pm

35 floors with an antenna type thing similar to Latitude 45. 530ft with the spire

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby grant1simons2 » April 5th, 2016, 4:47 pm

530 feet including the spire.

JMI is the hotel partner. 300 room, five star hotel.

And I'm here wearing a bright red rain coat.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby Silophant » April 5th, 2016, 4:50 pm

Ooh, almost forgot. I'm wearing a purple shirt.


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