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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby kiliff75 » January 7th, 2015, 5:14 pm

How many pages will we have in this thread by the time they announce the winner? :)

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby Wedgeguy » January 7th, 2015, 6:03 pm

kiliff75 wrote:How many pages will we have in this thread by the time they announce the winner? :)


Probably about 60 unless there is some development that bring interest back to discussions. At this point we are rehashing old posts. Been a lot less talk since the 1st of the year.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby PhilmerPhil » January 7th, 2015, 9:08 pm

90 pages would be pretty iconic... er wait, no, signature.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby Nick » January 7th, 2015, 9:58 pm

The merciless ruination of "iconic" in the past couple months has me sitting here, with an email open, trying to find the adjective to describe a word which is an adjective. "How would you describe its iconic-ness? iconicability? iconicity?" Crazy world we live in.

EDIT: My attorney has informed me that "iconic-ness" et al. would, in fact, not be adjectives. I apologize for the oversight.

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Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby Anondson » January 10th, 2015, 6:27 pm

Duval discusses how he makes it work.

http://m.startribune.com/local/minneapo ... ?section=/

Key point, the tower isn't offices. Mostly residential for the predicted huge need. The offices will be in the podium.
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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby uptowncarag » January 10th, 2015, 6:38 pm

Love this, the views would be spectacular. Since it is mostly residential I wonder if there would be an observation deck. I loved going to the top of the IDS and on a clear day you could see St. Olaf College.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby a_tribe_called_chris » January 10th, 2015, 8:09 pm

Anondson wrote:Duval discusses how he makes it work.

http://m.startribune.com/local/minneapo ... ?section=/

Key point, the tower isn't offices. Mostly residential for the predicted huge need. The offices will be in the podium.
I saw this and was glad to see some more positive press.

The bumpkins don't seem to like tall towers but this thing would really add something to the skyline. I hope they pick this proposal. Being primarily residential this should be a slam dunk. Duval states he has the team assembled and ready for action.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby Anondson » January 10th, 2015, 8:21 pm

I can see that if this gets the nod and it ends up on the upper end of the market for price to live there, that we see a few louder voices raising the issue of needing middle income housing downtown.

I'm in no way stating that THIS project needs to fill any of that need though some lower end of the market rate would be a plus, I just have a feeling this ends up filling the upper bracket.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby FISHMANPET » January 10th, 2015, 11:22 pm

At some point if enough luxury or mid luxury or whatever comes on the market, a place like the Churchill will lower their prices.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby xandrex » January 10th, 2015, 11:51 pm

FISHMANPET wrote:At some point if enough luxury or mid luxury or whatever comes on the market, a place like the Churchill will lower their prices.

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Is the Churchill all that expensive now? One of my coworkers lives there and neither of us are particularly rolling in the dough.

Minneapolis has a decent amount of affordable housing for the middle class-earning group of people. It's just a bit aged since we seemingly missed a 2000s boom in construction anywhere near the core.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby uncle phil » January 11th, 2015, 1:36 am

Churchill starts at $1225 for 1BR and $1750 for 2BR...

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby Minneboy » January 11th, 2015, 5:27 am

Damn, that's expensive enough. I've got a 3 bedroom house, 2 bathrooms, an 1100 sq ft garage and 1350 sf unfinished walkout basement for the price of the 1BR, and a tax write off.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby FISHMANPET » January 11th, 2015, 7:52 am

Churchill doesn't seem that much more expensive than new construction, but I think the units are smaller and they don't have nearly the amenities. They don't have an amazing location either, I don't know how they get away with it.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby talindsay » January 11th, 2015, 9:14 am

FISHMANPET wrote:At some point if enough luxury or mid luxury or whatever comes on the market, a place like the Churchill will lower their prices.

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Ah, trickle-down economics. If we let the market serve the rich, it will also, as a consequence help the poor and the middle class. Sometimes that works.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby stp1980 » January 11th, 2015, 9:06 pm

Anondson wrote:Duval discusses how he makes it work.

http://m.startribune.com/local/minneapo ... ?section=/

Key point, the tower isn't offices. Mostly residential for the predicted huge need. The offices will be in the podium.
He sounds like a bit of a dreamer, but I am guessing there are a fair amount of us who fall into that category on this website. Sometimes, dreamers win and in this case I can't say I would be disappointed.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby kiliff75 » January 11th, 2015, 10:15 pm

Here's a breakdown of the floors in the Duval proposal from the Strib print edition of that story on Duval...

https://imgur.com/FIhguF4

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby mattaudio » January 11th, 2015, 10:42 pm

Do any proposals not include a parking podium? Yikes

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby TroyGBiv » January 12th, 2015, 12:15 am

This illustration gives you a real sense of how narrow/slim the tower actually would be.... I would have guessed that there would be 25 floors of office...

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby FISHMANPET » January 12th, 2015, 9:42 am

It looks like Duvall has a ramp next to the building rather than an actual podium.

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Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Postby David Greene » January 12th, 2015, 10:21 am

FISHMANPET wrote:It looks like Duvall has a ramp next to the building rather than an actual podium.
Why not go underground? If you're building the new tallest, is it really that much more in the budget?

Or is there some geological issue there?


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