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RBC Gateway (Four Seasons) - 37 stories - 519'

Posted: January 29th, 2014, 8:16 pm
by gahwi003

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block/800 Washington

Posted: January 29th, 2014, 8:35 pm
by Tcmetro
This could be interesting if the requirement no longer exists for the bus layover. I would like to see the streetcar incorporated into the building. It would be interesting if the Streetcar could have a station similar to Central Station in Saint Paul, with the building built around it.

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block/800 Washington

Posted: January 29th, 2014, 8:53 pm
by PhilmerPhil
So the park idea for this block is being scrapped?

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block/800 Washington

Posted: January 29th, 2014, 9:44 pm
by Aville_37
Sounds like the city still wants any possible development to include green space, but it may no longer be the entire block. Not surprising considering the new park going up in DTE and funding issues for that park. Also - the North Loop still has plans to build a park as well. Still - the more green space in my book the better and I am sure the other developments around that block were touting a possible new park within view of all those expensive apartments/condos.

I am hopeful Peavy Plaza is rebuilt soon. The central business district still needs a greener public space.

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block/800 Washington

Posted: January 29th, 2014, 10:10 pm
by MNdible
Not that I'm suggesting that this will happen, but it's worth remembering that the city put out an RFP for the site next to the Guthrie, and the good Dr. McGuire replied to the RFP with a proposal to turn the site into Gold Medal Park. Whenever the Nicollet Hotel site has been discussed as a park, there's always been mention of private donors and a public-private partnership. So, the RFP doesn't necessarily mean that the park is out.

(We should split off the 800 Washington part of this because there's already a thread for that elsewhere.)

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Posted: January 29th, 2014, 10:55 pm
by John
Wow, A remarkable domino effect in development seems imminent in this part of downtown! I agree there should be some green space connection from Nicollet Mall to the North Loop, Hennepin Ave, and the river. But having some commercial development on this block (with retail at the base) would nicely strengthen both Nicollet Mall and the Hennepin/Washington Ave intersection to create a truly urban and bustling neighborhood.

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block/800 Washington

Posted: January 29th, 2014, 11:33 pm
by Silophant
MNdible wrote:Not that I'm suggesting that this will happen, but it's worth remembering that the city put out an RFP for the site next to the Guthrie, and the good Dr. McGuire replied to the RFP with a proposal to turn the site into Gold Medal Park. Whenever the Nicollet Hotel site has been discussed as a park, there's always been mention of private donors and a public-private partnership. So, the RFP doesn't necessarily mean that the park is out.
Indeed, there's already a privately owned public park across the street.

What I'd like to see would be two triangular buildings with the streetcar cutting through the block, like that one proposal for the Downtown East Station block someone posted an image of somewhere.

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Posted: January 29th, 2014, 11:36 pm
by Nick
That sure would solve some routing problems, wouldn't it?

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 12:08 am
by seanrichardryan
Reserve 25' on Nicollet and divide the remaining parcel into 2 lots.

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 11:13 am
by Wedgeguy
seanrichardryan wrote:Reserve 25' on Nicollet and divide the remaining parcel into 2 lots.
I like that idea a lot!

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Posted: February 11th, 2014, 12:32 pm
by nBode
Could we get one of those fancy Apple stores here (or anywhere else downtown)? You know, with all the glass and nothing else. They seem to be a sort've big deal in cities and we don't have one yet (Uptown doesn't count). This seems like it could be a good location, right? Could be nice with some green space surrounding it, connecting Nicollet with Hennepin/the river. Although the block could probably use more substantial development as well..

Maybe not, I don't know. But it's an idea. I do think we should have one somewhere, though. San Fran is getting a new one.. (that's why I thought of it).

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Posted: February 11th, 2014, 1:03 pm
by sushisimo
I think having an Uptown and Downtown Apple store may be a bit too close for their business model, but who knows. There are a ton of ad agencies in this area (big Mac users) and with the DT workforce and residential numbers, maybe it's viable.

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Posted: February 11th, 2014, 1:10 pm
by David Greene
sushisimo wrote:I think having an Uptown and Downtown Apple store may be a bit too close for their business model,
Not to mention it would screw over First Tech even more, not that Apple cares at all about one of its first and most loyal retail and service dealers.

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Posted: February 11th, 2014, 4:19 pm
by nonxtian
I've been thinking an Apple store would look great in the Brunsfield retail space with all the glass there. Probably not enough foot traffic around there yet to justify it though.

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Posted: February 11th, 2014, 11:06 pm
by twincitizen
I was thinking Apple Store in the Eclipse project at Washington & Hennepin. It's the only thing that could justify that much parking ;)

Seriously though, I would fully be on board with Downtown luring Apple away from Uptown. The current space would find another tenant in a heartbeat with those massive windows.

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Posted: February 11th, 2014, 11:13 pm
by Nathan
Or there could be two... or there could be one in Uptown and one in NE to support the U

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Posted: February 11th, 2014, 11:26 pm
by Didier
Would a downtown Apple store really be direct competition with an Uptown store any more than it would be direct competition with the Mall of America or Rosedale Apple stores?

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Posted: February 12th, 2014, 11:02 am
by woofner
We should just rename the city Appleapolis and put a store on every corner.

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Posted: February 12th, 2014, 11:46 am
by nickmgray
Why are we talking about Apple? Their stores are nice, but an Apple store would do much better if it was located on the first floor of the City Center.

Back to the main topic. I like the idea of having two buildings with a streetcar or pedestrian walk way between them. It would allow for a unique space for retail or a cafe with outdoor seating.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.410596, ... LralTw!2e0

While we all want tall buildings that reach for the sky, Minneapolis really needs developments which focus all of their attention on the street presence.

Re: Nicollet Hotel Block

Posted: February 12th, 2014, 11:50 am
by David Greene
nickmgray wrote:Back to the main topic. I like the idea of having two buildings with a streetcar or pedestrian walk way between them. It would allow for a unique space for retail or a cafe with outdoor seating.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.410596, ... LralTw!2e0
Well that certainly is unique. I feel bad for the poor bastard who got smooshed into the street.