Mayo Clinic Square

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Re: Mayo Clinic Square

Postby EOst » August 24th, 2017, 9:16 am

QuietBlue wrote:
August 24th, 2017, 7:46 am
One possible explanation (and I don't know if this had anything to do with it; it's just a guess) would be the heightened security climate in general post-9/11 -- more law enforcement visibility, more surveillance, more attention to building security, etc.
Maybe, but this was a trend (at least nationally; I don't have earlier Mpls data) that began in the early 90s. There are some who say environmental lead poisoning explains it.

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Re: Mayo Clinic Square

Postby Tiller » August 24th, 2017, 9:24 am

Most of the variation in crime rates that we've seen in the last 70 years or so is from the spread and then reduction in use of leaded gasoline. #LeadCrimeHypothesis http://www.motherjones.com/environment/ ... en-health/

Edit: EOst beat me to it. :)

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Re: Mayo Clinic Square

Postby SurlyLHT » August 24th, 2017, 10:02 am

The MN Daily has an article about how a 1/3 of the Minneapolis general fund. goes to policing. At this point, it seems like we might need to find some better and more cost effective solutions. Given, that I volunteer with youth organizations in North and South Minneapolis I must say you can't beat getting the kids off the street during the summer and evenings, giving them a meal and caring adults to make the lives easier for the children and their overwhelmed parents.

"The total amount of money allocated directly to police comes to $163.2 million, not including the allocations to the district attorney, city courts and probation and parole services, institutions which also discipline, she said"

http://www.mndaily.com/article/2017/07/ ... lis-police

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Re: Mayo Clinic Square

Postby TroyGBiv » August 25th, 2017, 8:07 am

Shouldn't we do what London has done... add hundreds if not thousands of cc cameras all over downtown on streets, entry / exit to downtown and major sidewalk areas... and then promote the heck out of it...

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Re: Mayo Clinic Square

Postby Silophant » August 25th, 2017, 8:18 am

No.

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Re: Mayo Clinic Square

Postby kirby96 » August 25th, 2017, 9:16 am

Silophant wrote:
August 25th, 2017, 8:18 am
No.
Yeah, I'm not sure I really want the hyper surveillance state.

That said, I don't see any controversial issue if private entities (say the Downtown Council) installed a whole slew of cameras on buildings in areas that have had problems. I'm not even sure it would be that expensive.

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Re: Mayo Clinic Square

Postby Silophant » August 25th, 2017, 9:40 am

I don't think it would be. The Xcel buildings have cameras all around, which is fine. The floodlights and speakers which they use to harass people until they go away... less so.

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Re: Mayo Clinic Square

Postby mnmike » September 3rd, 2017, 8:13 pm

There was just a shooting in front of Seven on Henn. Some people still going to downplay these incidents? Ugh, so embarrassing and such a disappointment:(

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Re: Mayo Clinic Square

Postby Silophant » September 3rd, 2017, 9:41 pm

No. The world is ending. Everyone in Minneapolis should move to St. Bonifacius to escape the carnage.

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Re: Mayo Clinic Square

Postby mnmike » September 4th, 2017, 11:12 am

Probably :D

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Re: Mayo Clinic Square

Postby SkyScraperKid » September 4th, 2017, 2:53 pm

mnmike wrote:
September 3rd, 2017, 8:13 pm
There was just a shooting in front of Seven on Henn. Some people still going to downplay these incidents? Ugh, so embarrassing and such a disappointment:(
I am also embarrassed. We need the national guard sent in, this is the most pressing issue for our nation. Anything less is a major disappointment. I'm glad we agree.

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Re: Mayo Clinic Square

Postby Anondson » September 4th, 2017, 3:35 pm

There must be a better thread for downtown sidewalk crime.


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