Nic on Fifth - (290' - 26 Stories)

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby Nathan » October 9th, 2013, 1:24 pm

bubzki2 wrote:It looks to me like they wanted fewer floors of parking so they bloated it out on either end and played them off as little balconies. Not that the balconies look bad as long as you're the one on top.
I'm not referring to the parking is cantilevered, that makes sense, I mean this weird awning structure that extends almost out to the LRT...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y9ff56ff7gehu6i/awning.jpg

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby nordeast homer » October 9th, 2013, 1:40 pm

I just thought it looked really odd because it is such a contrast to the awning of the LRT platform. It's the visual equivalent of eating green beans and ice cream.

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby Silophant » October 9th, 2013, 2:34 pm

I seem to remember seeing something a few months ago about building a second (presumably disembark only) platform for the northbound LRT trains on the north side of 5th. Presumably this is a part of that project. I'm glad they managed to work with Opus to just attach it to the building instead of building a separate support structure adjacent to it, but agree that it's strange that it's so visually inconsistent with the LRT awning.

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby Archiapolis » October 11th, 2013, 8:36 am

I think that we need to see some other images of how this design works. It is great to hear the opinions. My opinion is that one shouldn't try to "appropriate" context and "tack it on" to one's building. That LRT canopy is so expressive that I don't see an easy way to use that as context in a nearby building. Example: when KPF did that new university building across the footbridge from Gehry's Weisman, they didn't say, "Hey, let's do a curvilinear, abstracted skin!" Instead, they did a design that fit the program and responds to the context without MIMICKING it. KPF smartly played off of the classic columns of the buildings on the mall but expressed them using a polished/reflective metal that pulls from the Weisman. An LRT stop by nature has an opportunity that most buildings don't and that is to be VERY expressive and unique (in the manner of a traditional "folly" - a standalone piece of architecture). It is ill-advised (in my opinion) to appropriate very expressive design for the reasons above but also because it diminishes the original. Sorry to do get into architecture theory but Jencks said (paraphrased), "Architecture gets meaning by contrast or by similitude." To borrow very expressive architecture diminishes that expression as the rest of the context would then become homogenous if borrowing went futher. Long story longer, this canopy should express the architecture of the building and have affinity with THAT, instead of expressive design nearby and they should inform each other by contrast. My $.02.

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby Matt » October 12th, 2013, 11:12 am

Taken yesterday.

From down Nicollet a few blocks:
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From Hennepin:
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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby Nathan » October 12th, 2013, 12:42 pm

I can't wait to start seeing some glass go on it. It still seems so stern. I always want moar glass Downtown. :)

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby Wedgeguy » October 12th, 2013, 3:46 pm

I did not find the Nic or the new Exel building listed as proposed or under construction on the Skyscraperpage.com.

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby kregger22 » October 14th, 2013, 1:14 pm

Are there more floors to go on this building?

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby m b p » October 14th, 2013, 1:51 pm

Does anybody know what those colored panels, on street level, are going to be? They've shown different colors in different illustrations. The color combination, illustrated on the most recent renderings, is a bit horrible... but fall-like. I wonder if they are going to be some type of lighting effect... possibly color changing LEDs or something?

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby bubzki2 » October 15th, 2013, 8:22 am

This has to be close to topping out. Anyone have a current count?

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby min-chi-cbus » October 15th, 2013, 8:28 am

In that last pic I count 19 floors above the podium, so maybe 23?

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby nordeast homer » October 15th, 2013, 12:25 pm

I counted 23 today when I was downtown.

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby Wedgeguy » October 15th, 2013, 12:38 pm

So topped of 23 plus 3 with the parking floors makes 26?

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby mnmike » October 15th, 2013, 1:04 pm

5 floors in the base, 21 in the tower...26 total. I think they are working on the 25th floor right now...so one more to go.

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby Wedgeguy » October 15th, 2013, 4:22 pm

Good then they can finish the base before the snow comes falling down on them.

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby Konante » October 18th, 2013, 9:12 am

From this morning:

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby mullen » October 18th, 2013, 9:35 am

it's really a welcome sight to see a tower crane on the skyline like that. building an actual taller structure. this building is filling a gap, providing bulk. would've liked to see a few more stories but oh well.

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby Wedgeguy » October 18th, 2013, 9:45 am

I take that the half completed story is the last one except for the crown?

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby kregger22 » October 18th, 2013, 11:22 am

Could 4Marq have potentially been built at the same time as Nic on Fifth because of the proximity of two tower cranes? Curious as to whether or not there would be an issue if 4Marq is to get off the ground before Nic on Fifth is completeted because of the proximity of the two.

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Re: Nic on Fifth - (455 Nicollet Mall)

Postby TroyGBiv » October 18th, 2013, 7:39 pm

There may be an issue depending on how deep the Nic foundation is on the east side of the property. The two cranes probably aren't an issue. BTW - why is the 4 Marq page locked? It appears to be locked and I haven't seen any updates for a while? Did I press the wrong button and locked myself out?


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