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Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: February 13th, 2013, 10:51 pm
by twincitizen
I agree that TCF is a somewhat likely acquisition target for Citi or Chase. That's really weird that 3/4 of the Big 4 banks do not have any presence in the Twin Cities. I never realized that before.

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: February 14th, 2013, 12:18 am
by web
bank of america does have 1 atm in dt mpls and another in dt st paul........had lines when I was there in November

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: February 14th, 2013, 10:24 am
by Cyclotron
Didn't the opposite happen with US Bank - Firstar acquired US Bank, and then chose the US Bank identity and moved the HQ from Milwaukee?

Nope, USBank of Portland was bought and they keep the US Bank name and had the company headquartered here in MPLS.
Didn't the First Bank / US Bank merger happen before the Firstar merger? I thought there were two different mergers in a short time frame, with First Bank buying US Bank first and taking the US Bank name but keeping the headquarters here. and then Firstar buying US Bank.

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: February 14th, 2013, 4:33 pm
by twincitizen
Getting away from Downtown office market, but here's the story about USBank leasing 100k sq ft at Best Buy HQ. It turns out those people were moved out of the US Bank building on American Boulevard, but USBank will keep a branch there, as well as the naming rights to the building.

http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/p ... t-buy.html

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: February 15th, 2013, 12:29 am
by mulad
An odd thing with TCF is that they don't have any actual bank branches in downtown Saint Paul anymore -- there's only one TCF ATM in Town Square (which I've seen) and another ATM at RiverCentre (looking at their website). Okay, there's another at United Hospital, but that doesn't count, does it?

The West Des Moines mortgage headquarters for Wells Fargo ended up on The Colbert Report tonight...

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: February 18th, 2013, 1:38 pm
by Avian
The talk of TCF acquisition is going on outside of this forum as well:

David Bugajski, financial services analyst for San Francisco-based Discern Analytics, speculated on a buyout possibility at TCF Financial. The Wayzata-based regional bank frequently sees its name mentioned in acquisition talks. Bugajski’s headline for his Jan. 31 research report went straight to the point: “If there’s an offer, they should take it.”

--StarTribune: http://www.startribune.com/business/191 ... ml?refer=y

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: February 27th, 2013, 5:48 pm
by Didier
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but there was a line of protestors on the 28th Street bridge over 35W just south if downtown with signs implying that Wells Fargo is trying to kick them out of their homes. Anybody know what the deal is?

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: February 27th, 2013, 7:21 pm
by min-chi-cbus
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but there was a line of protestors on the 28th Street bridge over 35W just south if downtown with signs implying that Wells Fargo is trying to kick them out of their homes. Anybody know what the deal is?
Well, Wells Fargo Home Mortgage (located right there) was a MAJOR player in the foreclosure crisis of the past few years, responsible for a very large percentage of the bad loans written across the country. People may be complaining that Wells Fargo is not being lenient enough with renegotiating the terms of their mortgages or perhaps are pushing them out too fast.

That's my guess.

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: February 27th, 2013, 10:58 pm
by Uptown46
Yep, Occupy Homes protest of Wells Fargo. http://www.occupyhomesmn.org/marchonwells

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: February 28th, 2013, 10:41 am
by John
Might be a little bit old news, but this is a bizjournal video ( linked by Spectre000 on SkyscraperCity) from January 2013 with Collin Barr of Ryan Companies making a very exciting prediction of four new office projects announced for downtown in the next 12-18 months. http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/b ... JzAi4f-rOs

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: February 28th, 2013, 12:39 pm
by min-chi-cbus
I wonder if nasa is one of those people in the vid?

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: February 28th, 2013, 5:12 pm
by kregger22
It would be interesting to hear where the 4 proposed new downtown office buildings sites would be...

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: March 1st, 2013, 6:27 am
by nasa35
It would be interesting to hear where the 4 proposed new downtown office buildings sites would be...
If you include the convention hotel we have five (5) potential skyline impacters!

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: March 1st, 2013, 8:11 am
by mnmike
On a random note...with all the projects that are ongoing and all the new proposals downtown....it irritates me even more that Bob Lux just sits on block E and does nothing! Not to mention his lot at 10th and Hennepin. Grrr

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: March 1st, 2013, 8:48 am
by nasa35
On a random note...with all the projects that are ongoing and all the new proposals downtown....it irritates me even more that Bob Lux just sits on block E and does nothing! Not to mention his lot at 10th and Hennepin. Grrr
Once the Lunds opened I though he was going to build....he still might.

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: March 1st, 2013, 8:50 am
by nasa35
I wonder if nasa is one of those people in the vid?
nope. I'm much better looking!

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: March 1st, 2013, 8:55 am
by helsinki
I agree that TCF is a somewhat likely acquisition target for Citi or Chase. That's really weird that 3/4 of the Big 4 banks do not have any presence in the Twin Cities. I never realized that before.
Arguably, the metro is better served by avoiding such consolidations. Corporate gigantism is generally bad, but it is especially bad when a local fish is swallowed by a distant whale. The board of directors of the merged entity won't be constituted from amongst the local community. High paid jobs would be transferred to New York. The connection between local lending and borrowing would be weakened. Corporate philanthropy to the Twin Cities would decrease.

Talk of "synergy" and "economies of scale" in finance should be called by it's proper name: nonsense.

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: March 1st, 2013, 9:40 am
by seanrichardryan
Bill Cooper and TCF are hardly known for philanthropy. They are known for high fees, 19th century ATMs, poor customer service and unsound business practices. Good riddance.

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: March 1st, 2013, 10:56 am
by mulad
I liked the old green-screen ATMs because they were fast. These fancy graphics nowadays just slow things down. </offtopic>

Re: Downtown Office Market

Posted: March 1st, 2013, 12:13 pm
by mullen
we've benefited from this consolidation. we have a top ten bank hq here after US bank's moves. and wells fargo employs more here than norwest did. i think bank of america sucks and i couldn't care less if they had presence in this market.

disregarding one ceo's personality i'd hate to lose tcf as a brand in minnesota. it has a long well regarded local legacy imo. remember the bob lurstema commercials? mary richards and the WJM news team's offices were in their old building for godsakes..... :P or maybe that was midwest federal...whatever it still is about as minnesota as any bank.