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Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 1st, 2017, 3:34 pm
by grant1simons2
Apparently there's a light walk preview that's gone up.

Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 13th, 2017, 3:42 pm
by jonhanson
This, to me, is the second biggest problem in Minneapolis right now. How on earth has a repaving project taken two and a half years? (Yes, I know they did subterranean amenity work, but c'mon)

It's killed our retail and it's about to do worse with the restaurants. Can anyone who works in the downtown core attest to any work being done? I regularly walk through on weekends and am amazed as to the lack of progress, with NO WORK being done on weekend days. I was very excited for the Mall to be redone and when they brought in the big names to design it, I was even more encouraged. Now, it seems it's been a boondoggle and regardless of how nice it turns out, the damage will have been done.

Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 13th, 2017, 3:56 pm
by grant1simons2
They aren't working in winter

They're replacing every single god damn utility that sits under the mall, and adding more.

No, this isn't what's killing the strong retailers like Sports Authority, Macys, Gap and Barnes and Noble.

It's starting to piss me off how many people are blaming this project for literally everything. Meanwhile Five Guys, Nordstrom rack, Kisa, Walgreens, YMCA, Velo renovations, Randles, etc.

Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 13th, 2017, 5:02 pm
by Qhaberl
I happened to have you opportunity to walk along Nicklett mall a couple days ago. At this point in the project, I am very disappointed with the concrete. It looks bland and boring.


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Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 13th, 2017, 5:09 pm
by 5th Ave Guy
It doesn't seem like there's been any work done on the north end of the mall for several months; including week days. This may turn out beautiful, but I have to imagine they wish they would've planned the logistics better.

Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 13th, 2017, 7:27 pm
by jonhanson
They aren't working in winter

They're replacing every single god damn utility that sits under the mall, and adding more.
We curse on here now?

Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 13th, 2017, 7:48 pm
by Mcgizz
They aren't working in winter

They're replacing every single god damn utility that sits under the mall, and adding more.
We curse on here now?
Don't go outside, you just might hear a naughty word. Get over it.

Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 13th, 2017, 9:16 pm
by seanrichardryan
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Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 13th, 2017, 9:47 pm
by FranklinAveFixation
Always thought Nicollet Mall was overrated myself, can't think of one building along that stretch that isn't a complete disaster as far as street face/walkablity. There's no way the finished product will be worth the wait on this one, sounds like the construction unions are milking this one for all its got. At least I learned that the rts. 17/18 are more useful and convenient when we run them down hennepin ave.
edit: I guess the Local is aight.

Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 13th, 2017, 9:57 pm
by LakeCharles
Always thought Nicollet Mall was overrated myself, can't think of one building along that stretch that isn't a complete disaster as far as street face/walkablity. There's no way the finished product will be worth the wait on this one, sounds like the construction unions are milking this one for all its got. At least I learned that the rts. 17/18 are more useful and convenient when we run them down hennepin ave.
edit: I guess the Local is aight.
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I assume you are just trolling, but the Medical Arts building is pretty great. 4 entrances in 1/3rd of a block. That whole block on the east side of Nicollet between 8th and 9th has 10 public entrances. Not too shabby.

Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 13th, 2017, 10:08 pm
by FranklinAveFixation
Always thought Nicollet Mall was overrated myself, can't think of one building along that stretch that isn't a complete disaster as far as street face/walkablity. There's no way the finished product will be worth the wait on this one, sounds like the construction unions are milking this one for all its got. At least I learned that the rts. 17/18 are more useful and convenient when we run them down hennepin ave.
edit: I guess the Local is aight.
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I assume you are just trolling, but the Medical Arts building is pretty great. 4 entrances in 1/3rd of a block. That whole block on the east side of Nicollet between 8th and 9th has 10 public entrances. Not too shabby.
If the city would stop letting zelo obstruct the whole sidewalk with their patio I might agree with you, somewhat.

Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 13th, 2017, 10:58 pm
by mamundsen
I've thought, if we can survive this long... why why why are we putting the buses back? It should be pure peds only!

Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 13th, 2017, 11:19 pm
by Silophant
Yep. They haven't started building the bus shelters yet, it's not too late to just not do it!

Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 14th, 2017, 9:55 am
by mattaudio
If and only if we get dedicated (DEDICATED!) bus lanes on Hennepin and possibly 3rd Ave S. But yes, it's possible.

Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 14th, 2017, 10:14 am
by acs
Forget Hennepin, 3rd ave makes too much sense not to have dedicated lanes. All the Nicollet Mall routes that cross the river go over the Central Ave. bridge, not on Hennepin. Only the 17 and 18 would have to jog over.

But yeah, removing the buses and making the mall ped+bike only has to be one of the top comments every single time this project comes up in the news.

Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 14th, 2017, 11:55 am
by SkyScraperKid
They aren't working in winter

They're replacing every single god damn utility that sits under the mall, and adding more.

No, this isn't what's killing the strong retailers like Sports Authority, Macys, Gap and Barnes and Noble.

It's starting to piss me off how many people are blaming this project for literally everything. Meanwhile F̶i̶v̶e̶ ̶G̶u̶y̶s̶, Nordstrom rack, K̶i̶s̶a̶,̶ ̶W̶a̶l̶g̶r̶e̶e̶n̶s̶,̶ ̶Y̶M̶C̶A̶, ̶V̶e̶l̶o̶ ̶r̶e̶n̶o̶v̶a̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶,̶ ̶R̶a̶n̶d̶l̶e̶s̶, etc.
Five guys is skyway location, Kisa is existing retailer relocating to ground level, Walgreens moved and expanded store size slightly, YMCA also moved a block over from Lasalle to Nicollet Mall, and Velo & Randles are existing retail so to speak. Mordstrom rack is the only sizeable gain mentioned on your list. Which is hardly enough to fill the void of Sports Authority, Macys, Gap and Barnes and Noble.

Maybe we even need to add Radio shack to that rotted retail list? A Lot of these stores had problems with decaying customer bases, which of course can't be used to place ALL the blame on the remodel. However the Nicollet Mall of the future is shaping up to have anchors that include, Target, YMCA, and YWCA. Luckily we are also so blessed to have Marshalls, Saks off Fifth, and Nordstrom's Rack.

Nicollet Mall is being built on a much more stable retail footing, which is for the good. Now let's deal with reality, and not try to pretend that a bunch of retailers shifting locations is a positive thing when you have another bunch of retailers running the hell out of town!

Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 14th, 2017, 12:00 pm
by twinkess
Five Guys is ground floor with a direct entrance on the Mall. Source: I've been there.

Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 14th, 2017, 12:04 pm
by mattaudio
It's almost like we should be getting a transit tunnel in exchange for this much disruption.

Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 14th, 2017, 12:35 pm
by grant1simons2
Retailers running the hell out of town: Macys, Barnes and Noble, Sports Authority, Radio Shack, Gap

Retailers running the hell out of money: Macys, Barnes and Noble, Sports Authority, Radio Shack, Gap

Retailers that left way before all of this: Ralph Lauren, Saks Fifth Ave, Nieman Marcus, Cole Haan

Re: Nicollet Mall Reconstruction Project

Posted: February 14th, 2017, 2:00 pm
by minntransplant
It doesn't seem like there's been any work done on the north end of the mall for several months; including week days. This may turn out beautiful, but I have to imagine they wish they would've planned the logistics better.
When I arrive downtown in the morning, it is rare I see anyone working on this project. Same when I walk around at lunch. Same when I'm heading home. I have no idea why there aren't bodies up and down Nicollet every day.