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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby Nordeastmpls » October 11th, 2012, 8:16 am

Isn't there some kind of heating/ice removal system in the new 35W bridge?

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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby MNdible » October 11th, 2012, 9:12 am

I think the new bridge has automated salt-sprayers, but no heating.

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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby nickmgray » October 11th, 2012, 10:07 am

I hope this finally happens. having lived in Italy for most of my life, I miss pedestrian streets or even pedestrian zones in cities. The grid system in Minneapolis isn't ideal, but it can be done.

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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby nordeast homer » October 11th, 2012, 10:40 am

MNdible wrote:I think the new bridge has automated salt-sprayers, but no heating.
I believe it's actually a potassium based product.

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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby mulad » October 11th, 2012, 11:54 am

The old bridge used potassium acetate, and I think the new one uses the same stuff. It's classified as a salt, but isn't what you'd reach for at the dinner table. It's considered less corrosive and more compatible with soil than NaCl.

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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby helsinki » November 8th, 2012, 9:04 am

Looks like the MinnPost picked up on the heated sidewalks idea:

http://www.minnpost.com/cityscape/2012/ ... nd-st-paul

Unfortunately the author didn't make two important points (that remove the idea from fantasy-land and make it eminently plausible): First, heating sidewalks isn't really that expensive - lord knows how many utilities are already buried under Nicollet Mall; Second: the corrosion problems have been fixed (1985 was almost 30 years ago ... see fotoapparatic's salient Oct. 10 comment re technological progress).

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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby min-chi-cbus » November 8th, 2012, 9:36 am

helsinki wrote:Looks like the MinnPost picked up on the heated sidewalks idea:

http://www.minnpost.com/cityscape/2012/ ... nd-st-paul

Unfortunately the author didn't make two important points (that remove the idea from fantasy-land and make it eminently plausible): First, heating sidewalks isn't really that expensive - lord knows how many utilities are already buried under Nicollet Mall; Second: the corrosion problems have been fixed (1985 was almost 30 years ago ... see fotoapparatic's salient Oct. 10 comment re technological progress).
I was hoping something like this could be feasible and economic!

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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby mnmike » November 8th, 2012, 9:38 am

Again...can I point out that Nicollet Mall used to have heated sidewalks! People act like this is a new idea.

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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby mattaudio » November 8th, 2012, 9:45 am

Nicollet Mall is going to get a LRT tunnel underneath it, right? :)

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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby Didier » November 8th, 2012, 9:55 am

When I read that MinnPost story the other day I couldn't help but think the writer took that Helsinki example directly from this message board.

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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby Matt » November 22nd, 2012, 7:26 pm

It is "drive down Nicollet Mall" night (from 6-10pm).

http://www.startribune.com/local/blogs/180410981.html

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Nicollet Mall

Postby Jfuss » April 12th, 2013, 4:04 pm

Minneapolis wants new vision for Nicollet
http://www.startribune.com/local/blogs/202767571.html
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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby Minneboy » April 12th, 2013, 6:41 pm

The picture is reminiscent of the last round of drawings. Remember they proposed those glass stairwells back then?

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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby robotlollipop » April 12th, 2013, 7:42 pm

"Transforming Nicollet was one of 10 goals the Downtown Council identified in their 2025 plan, which was released last year. Their vision of the redo is pictured above."

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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby Silophant » April 12th, 2013, 11:15 pm

Why does the concept drawing show cars on Nicollet Mall?

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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby PhilmerPhil » April 12th, 2013, 11:19 pm

I personally find Nicollet Mall one of the best places to walk in the city. I don't quite understand the urgency to rebuild it when that money could be put to creating new wonderful pedestrian environments, like an E-W spine, or extending the mall further south. Are the tiles really that bad?

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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby MNdible » April 13th, 2013, 12:17 am

Silophant wrote:Why does the concept drawing show cars on Nicollet Mall?
I think that view is actually looking down 9th Street.
PhilmerPhil wrote:Are the tiles really that bad?
Yes, they really are. The city spends an awful lot of money trying to keep them in a walkable condition.

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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby min-chi-cbus » April 13th, 2013, 8:55 am

PhilmerPhil wrote:I personally find Nicollet Mall one of the best places to walk in the city. I don't quite understand the urgency to rebuild it when that money could be put to creating new wonderful pedestrian environments, like an E-W spine, or extending the mall further south. Are the tiles really that bad?
The city needs a signature and iconic street and Nicollet is just not up to snuff. I think $20 million is a relatively small investment in what could be Minneapolis' answer to the Miracle Mile

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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby Didier » April 13th, 2013, 9:17 am

That picture can't be winning over any neutrals. What an awkward drawing. What is that smug businessman doing just standing there on the stairs? It looks like he is being lifted up into a UFO.

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Re: Nicollet Mall

Postby seanrichardryan » April 13th, 2013, 9:21 am

It's a space elevator, not a staircase. Perhaps a vacuum elevator, which are a bit like those tubes at the drive thru bank.

http://www.newvaclift.com/
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