Medical Examiner's Office - 530 Chicago Ave

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Medical Examiner's Office - 530 Chicago Ave

Postby SixOneTwo » January 15th, 2016, 10:04 am

The Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office is requesting funding in the upcoming bonding bill to build a new facility. The new facility would no longer be downtown.

Apparently the crime lab would be interested in expanding into the old Medical Examiner's Office, but given the value of the land (across the street from US Bank Stadium), one would hope that the county would sell to a private developer. Hopefully the funds are included in the bonding bill this spring and then the speculation can begin.

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Re: Medical Examiner's Office - 530 Chicago Ave

Postby Anondson » January 15th, 2016, 10:16 am

Should the county put consideration of sites within walking distance of future LRT stations on the options?

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Postby SixOneTwo » January 15th, 2016, 10:26 am

They are looking for space on the 494 corridor, likely in Bloomington.

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Postby Archiapolis » January 15th, 2016, 10:42 am

This seems like great news. Get 'em out of there.

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Postby mattaudio » January 15th, 2016, 10:54 am

Just came here to post this news, and you all beat me to it.

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Postby amiller92 » January 15th, 2016, 11:02 am

Just yesterday I was walking by there thinking, it would be really nice to make better use of that land.

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Postby acs » January 15th, 2016, 11:08 am

Guys, don't get your hopes up. Remember, the parking lot on this parcel is going to be leased to the Vikings on gamedays for tailgating as part of the deal to keep them off the commons. If the county puts the land up for sale, my guess is the likely buyer would be the Vikings and the building would become more parking.

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Postby grant1simons2 » January 15th, 2016, 11:40 am

The city would not be allowing that. Or at least a lot of us here would be angry.

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Postby amiller92 » January 15th, 2016, 11:45 am

acs wrote:Guys, don't get your hopes up. Remember, the parking lot on this parcel is going to be leased to the Vikings on gamedays for tailgating as part of the deal to keep them off the commons. If the county puts the land up for sale, my guess is the likely buyer would be the Vikings and the building would become more parking.
I'd hope the Wilf would see developing it as far more profitable.

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Re: Medical Examiner's Office - 530 Chicago Ave

Postby acs » January 15th, 2016, 11:50 am

amiller92 wrote:
acs wrote:Guys, don't get your hopes up. Remember, the parking lot on this parcel is going to be leased to the Vikings on gamedays for tailgating as part of the deal to keep them off the commons. If the county puts the land up for sale, my guess is the likely buyer would be the Vikings and the building would become more parking.
I'd hope the Wilf would see developing it as far more profitable.
I'd sure hope so too. Yet Ziggy also owns two lots immediately north of the stadium as well, and so far the only indication of his plans are more skyway connected parking ramps.

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Postby HiawathaGuy » January 15th, 2016, 1:08 pm

acs wrote:I'd sure hope so too. Yet Ziggy also owns two lots immediately north of the stadium as well, and so far the only indication of his plans are more skyway connected parking ramps.
That's not true at all. They've mentioned having it be mixed-use spaces. I don't have time to dig back through the various threads, but I remember posting an article about that. If the Wilf's do buy the space, I doubt it would be for parking. Zigi & his brother have not made millions by building parking ramps or parking lots.

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Postby Nathan » January 15th, 2016, 1:12 pm

Wouldn't that lot be the next best place for them to try to pull off the development they proposed for the parking ramp block? Bring in some residential, office/sports entertainment news broadcast area, and some ground floor retail? Real close, better views than their lots on the north side of the stadium.

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Re: Medical Examiner's Office - 530 Chicago Ave

Postby Architorture » January 15th, 2016, 1:16 pm

I can't imagine the city would not demand something more special than just parking here. The location is just too good on the newly built park. The site could utilize underground and wrapped parking to take care of the parking burden. I would hope to see something mixed use and 10+ stories. It also needs to active the street level on the park side - walk up units or retail/dining. (If they can find the demand for it, but that might be a stretch.)

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Postby Nathan » January 15th, 2016, 1:22 pm

Does anyone know if that block will keep it's rounded form with how the final street reconfiguration will be? Because a curve faced building there would be really awesome.

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Re: Medical Examiner's Office - 530 Chicago Ave

Postby acs » January 15th, 2016, 1:28 pm

HiawathaGuy wrote:
acs wrote:I'd sure hope so too. Yet Ziggy also owns two lots immediately north of the stadium as well, and so far the only indication of his plans are more skyway connected parking ramps.
That's not true at all. They've mentioned having it be mixed-use spaces. I don't have time to dig back through the various threads, but I remember posting an article about that. If the Wilf's do buy the space, I doubt it would be for parking. Zigi & his brother have not made millions by building parking ramps or parking lots.
Don't know how recent the rendering is, but this article is from this past week. Look at the second image attached to the article, that sure looks like a parking ramp to me.

http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/b ... ds.html#i2

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Re: Medical Examiner's Office - 530 Chicago Ave

Postby HiawathaGuy » January 15th, 2016, 1:32 pm

acs wrote:Don't know how recent the rendering is, but this article is from this past week. Look at the second image attached to the article, that sure looks like a parking ramp to me.

http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/b ... ds.html#i2
That rendering also shows Portland closed and green space on the plaza. Neither of which are happening.
There's no doubt Zigy has talked about adding parking there. But more recently, they've mentioned building mixed-use buildings there. If parking is included in that mix, I can't fault them - it's their property.

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Postby min-chi-cbus » January 15th, 2016, 3:56 pm

grant1simons2 wrote:The city would not be allowing that. Or at least a lot of us here would be angry.
We can be NIMBYs!!!

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Postby min-chi-cbus » January 15th, 2016, 4:01 pm

I know some here could lose consciousness as they read this, but I would actually support a height restriction on some of the blocks to the south/southwest of the park, in order to maximize natural sunlight on the park. A bright park is a happy park. I'm not suggesting something abominable like 4 floors, but whatever height maximizes the most direct sunlight (maybe 12-15 floors). Like Central Park, NYC.

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Re: Medical Examiner's Office - 530 Chicago Ave

Postby Wedgeguy » January 15th, 2016, 4:16 pm

You have the Armory to the south on one block, and the other block is Hennepin county and the Health Building and the Juvi-detention center that pretty muck keep the sunlight coming in. Not sure how tall a building would have to be before it would cast a shadow that would be longer than a block in the winter at high noon to encroach on the parks sunlight. But at this point there is easily a one block sunshine safety zone already built in. Doubt we will be seeing any supertall being built in Elliot Park and that would basically be the area where any building to the south would happen.

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Re: Medical Examiner's Office - 530 Chicago Ave

Postby mattaudio » January 15th, 2016, 4:21 pm

min-chi-cbus wrote:A bright park is a happy park.
While this is true if there is extremely monolithic development overshadowing, we have plenty of urban parks with tall buildings surrounding them and partial shade during daytime hours. Rice, Mears, Government Center Plaza, etc.


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