City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

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Re: New City of Minneapolis Office Building

Postby SurlyLHT » April 5th, 2018, 9:19 am

I didn't read the article, but I did notice that they mention this is now a 10 story project. (In a more ideal world Thrivent could scrap their 8 story suburban project move into this and give us 20 stories?)

https://finance-commerce.com/2018/04/ci ... -building/

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Re: New City of Minneapolis Office Building

Postby bapster2006 » April 5th, 2018, 4:17 pm

11 floors. Includes the potential for a much taller building on the parking ramp next-door.

http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/www/gro ... 209886.pdf

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Re: City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

Postby Anondson » April 5th, 2018, 8:37 pm

I kind of el oh el’d at the idea of someone building higher next door.

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Re: City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

Postby Silophant » April 5th, 2018, 8:39 pm

Ooh, anodized aluminum. This is going to be an attractive building, as far as block-long monoliths go.

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Re: City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

Postby bapster2006 » April 5th, 2018, 9:20 pm

Anondson wrote:
April 5th, 2018, 8:37 pm
I kind of el oh el’d at the idea of someone building higher next door.
I had to giggle at the shadow study.

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Re: City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

Postby SurlyLHT » April 9th, 2018, 8:45 am

What are the odds that something else is built on top of the ramp next door? This would require the company which owns the ramp to partner with a developer? But do they have any interest? Also is this has always been a possibility wouldn't it have been done by now?

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Re: City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

Postby Nathan » April 9th, 2018, 8:50 am

I'm not sure that was the implication?

Can someone clarify this option to build taller next door?

I'm under the impression that what they are saying is there is some sort of rule about heights and visibility in this area so that by building a shorter building the adjacent lot could have a taller development on it?

I'm not sure that would mean keeping the parking garage next door and building on top of it (gross) or for a future development of the parcel.

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Re: City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

Postby MNdible » April 9th, 2018, 9:04 am

Given the advanced age of that ramp, and the unlikeliness that it was originally designed to carry any additional structure atop it, I'd say the odds of it are not good.

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Re: City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

Postby SurlyLHT » April 9th, 2018, 9:47 am

Seems like wishful thinking on behalf of the city. The company that owns that ramp is making a pretty penny given it's location and the demise of the ramp the City Office Building is taking the place of. Thrivent will have their new ramp, but it will largely have space for their employees I presume and not be intended as a place for those going to the Government Center to park. You also have more County employees eventually moving into the old Thrivent HQ. Who knows maybe they'll be a proposal to tear down the ramp and build a tower with a bunch of parking underneath. Nothing is impossible?

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Re: City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

Postby mattaudio » April 9th, 2018, 3:39 pm

It's almost like the city should have...
1. Reclad the east ramp and
2. Reconfigured the ground level to make the street presence slightly less awful
...before swapping it with ImPark to get the ramp that the city building will replace.

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Re: City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

Postby jtoemke » April 10th, 2018, 7:17 am

Maybe this is a weird thought but I feel like as far as parking garages go, the one being torn down is one of the most attractive we have downtown.

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Re: City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

Postby lorwest » April 10th, 2018, 7:58 am

jtoemke wrote:
April 10th, 2018, 7:17 am
Maybe this is a weird thought but I feel like as far as parking garages go, the one being torn down is one of the most attractive we have downtown.
Not weird, I agree.

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Re: City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

Postby Silophant » April 10th, 2018, 8:29 am

Me too. I like what they're doing to surround Government Plaza with actual active uses, but all else being equal, it would have been much better to tear down the gross other ramp.

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Re: City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

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Re: City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

Postby Anondson » April 12th, 2018, 6:07 pm

A rare winter rendering...

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Re: City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

Postby BBMplsMN » April 12th, 2018, 6:17 pm

That lobby and skyway space is great. So light, airy and open.

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Re: City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

Postby Palmetto » April 12th, 2018, 7:07 pm

I am extremely impressed. This building will be a great addition to the area and an example of the building street presence that the city wants new developments to strive for. Do we know where they decided to place the coffee/snack stand?

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Re: City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

Postby Silophant » April 12th, 2018, 7:35 pm

The coffee stand will be going on the 5th St corner - basically right at the vantage point for the third image in Grant's post.

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Re: City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

Postby Homewood2009 » April 13th, 2018, 5:57 am

Thank you Grant, for posting the pics. I love the random openings and modern design, and being being very open to the street.

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Re: City of Minneapolis Office Building - 501 4th Ave S - 11 stories / 171'

Postby alexschief » April 13th, 2018, 8:14 am

The attention given to the street level and the openness of the skyway level to the outside is the best part of this design. I'm glad that, with a public project, the city allowed or encouraged their design team to set an example for private developers.


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