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Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: October 25th, 2016, 6:21 pm
by grant1simons2
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Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: October 25th, 2016, 6:59 pm
by Anondson
This is a perfect way to fill in that space.

Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: October 26th, 2016, 6:24 am
by Qhaberl
I love seeing all these in infill projects. They are so good for the neighborhood. Hopefully we see several more of them.


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Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: October 26th, 2016, 7:01 am
by Anondson
I hope the rooftop gets a larger patio.

Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: October 26th, 2016, 4:15 pm
by TroyGBiv
I think this looks really great! It appears to have more of the neighborhood architecture in this design! Love the addition to the neighborhood!

Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: October 27th, 2016, 11:36 am
by FISHMANPET
Does anyone know why this building requires removing the PO Overlay district? This all around seems like a good project so if there's something in the PO guidelines that prevent this, then that's alarming.

Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: October 27th, 2016, 12:48 pm
by cnelson
I don't think there's anything in the plan that doesn't meet the PO guidelines. from the latest project doc -

"The site is currently zoned OR3 Institutional Office Residence District and C1 Neighborhood
Commercial District and is located in the DP Downtown Parking Overlay District and the PO
Pedestrian Oriented Overlay District (12 West 15th Street only). Since the properties are being
combined they need to have the same zoning classification.
The applicant is proposing to rezone the
entire site to the OR3 Institutional Office Residence District and remove the PO Pedestrian Oriented
Overlay District."

Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: October 27th, 2016, 1:48 pm
by Silophant
Is there any reason the PO district couldn't be expanded to the whole site instead of shrunk?

Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: January 26th, 2017, 8:20 pm
by EOst
On the other side of 15th:

18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: January 26th, 2017, 8:57 pm
by Anondson
I had some info drop into my lap a few weeks ago about this. What I heard:

• west side of 1500 block of Nicollet
• 5–6 stories
• 160ish units
• rooftop deck
• underground parking
• 4,000 sq. ft. ground floor retail.
• dog run
• could come with a 15 year affordability period.

Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: January 26th, 2017, 9:43 pm
by Silophant
So, just to be clear, this would be replacing the Nicollet Grocery and the military surplus store? Cool.

Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: January 26th, 2017, 10:27 pm
by mnmike
Oh, wait...another one? Side note...between lasalle and 1st would be the perfect place for a freeway cap.

Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: January 27th, 2017, 9:18 am
by nBode
^agree 100% about the cap.

I like the Nicollet Grocery building, though.

Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: January 27th, 2017, 9:28 am
by EOst
^For sure, especially given the huge redevelopment sites on both sides of Nicollet south of 94.

I am a little torn about the old buildings. They house a lot of small minority-owned businesses, and several have been fixed up pretty recently. Kind of a shame to lose some of the last small commercial buildings on Nicollet downtown.

Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: January 27th, 2017, 9:34 am
by mattaudio
mnmike wrote:perfect place for a freeway cap.
Obligatory Columbus inspiration reference. https://goo.gl/maps/6DdQQConu9n

Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: January 27th, 2017, 9:50 am
by MNdible
Nah, this is a location where they should just do a full cap between 1st Avenue and La Salle. The freeway cut is narrow and deep, and there are no on or offramps to complicate matters.

Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: January 27th, 2017, 9:59 am
by mnmike
yeah, I always think a full cap, maybe with a bit of the columbus one mixed with green space. Imagine the development potential.

Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: January 27th, 2017, 10:03 am
by amiller92
Silophant wrote:So, just to be clear, this would be replacing the Nicollet Grocery and the military surplus store? Cool.
Any preservation issues? I've eyed that block and thought it would be nice to at least keep the facade/form of the grocery.

Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: January 27th, 2017, 10:05 am
by amiller92
mnmike wrote:Oh, wait...another one? Side note...between lasalle and 1st would be the perfect place for a freeway cap.
I think that every time I have the misfortune to walk across one of those bridges.

Re: 18 West 15th Street - CPM development

Posted: January 27th, 2017, 10:33 am
by mattaudio
MNdible wrote:Nah, this is a location where they should just do a full cap between 1st Avenue and La Salle.
What's the point of the cost of a full cap, when the benefit we're trying to achieve is a consistent blockface for walkability?