Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby amiller92 » March 8th, 2018, 2:32 pm

I do not understand why it would be important to group like uses together.

Actually, I think that sounds affirmatively bad.

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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby nordeast homer » March 8th, 2018, 2:54 pm

The way it's set up now makes most sense. You'd want the hotel portion closest to HCMC and the housing portion on the opposite end for a little noise buffer.

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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby SurlyLHT » March 9th, 2018, 7:58 am

More details from Finance and Commerce,

"Sherman will present its plans to the neighborhood association on May 1. Construction on the Sherman projects is expected to begin in November. Work on Thrivent’s building will begin this summer. Both sides of the redevelopment block will be completed by mid-2020, said Shane LaFave, Sherman’s director of multifamily development."


"Thrivent’s project checked another box for the neighborhood association with its shorter stature. They were pleased that the Thrivent project would not “overshadow” the Minneapolis Armory directly across South Sixth Street, or the Commons park two blocks to the east.

“I think if you had some 40-story tower, it would tower over the Commons,” Tamburino said.

Thrivent took into account the impact its building would have on Downtown East, Thrivent’s Briese said.

“We’ve considered how our building will fit in with the rest of East Town,” she wrote in the email. “Ultimately, we have designed a space that meets the needs of Thrivent and is a welcoming place for those in East Town.”"

https://finance-commerce.com/2018/03/ne ... town-hcmc/

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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby alexschief » March 9th, 2018, 9:08 am

SurlyLHT wrote:
March 9th, 2018, 7:58 am
“I think if you had some 40-story tower, it would tower over the Commons,” Tamburino said.
God forbid the Commons ever feel like Central Park or Rittenhouse Square, two of the premier urban parks in America.

Seriously, what an idiotic comment.

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Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby Anondson » March 9th, 2018, 9:25 am

Concerns about shadowing a neighbor building this close to the CBD is bewildering. This must be just grasping at any excuse to fit.

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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby bapster2006 » March 9th, 2018, 9:30 am

I agree, what a weird comment. Plus, that 8-story building does indeed overshadow the armory.

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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby amiller92 » March 9th, 2018, 10:32 am

Confession time: While waiting for the bes yesterday at 6th and 5th, I had the thought, "maybe we shouldn't put anything too tall right next to the Armory" for a moment.

No worries. I quickly chastised myself.

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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby Silophant » March 9th, 2018, 11:21 am

Well, luckily, it looks like we won't.

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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby talindsay » March 13th, 2018, 9:48 am

Height in itself is neither good nor bad. The fight is over density, and density is what a city needs, not height.

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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby bapster2006 » April 5th, 2018, 5:38 pm

The details on the office building.

http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/www/gro ... 209890.pdf

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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby SurlyLHT » April 9th, 2018, 9:59 am

I'm trying to like this proposal. With the capacity of this building I wonder if their current building is partially empty?

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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby VacantLuxuries » May 1st, 2018, 3:03 pm

Plans for the southern half of the block are being debuted tonight at DMNA.

Agenda

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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby Silophant » May 1st, 2018, 3:03 pm

Ooh, beat me to this one.

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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby VacantLuxuries » May 1st, 2018, 3:04 pm

If it took me a minute longer to figure out the html for a friendly link you'd have won.

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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby neck » May 4th, 2018, 7:02 pm

VacantLuxuries wrote:
May 1st, 2018, 3:03 pm
Plans for the southern half of the block are being debuted tonight at DMNA.

Agenda
Did anyone go to this meeting and see the plans?

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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby bapster2006 » May 15th, 2018, 5:55 pm

Here are your full headquarters plans:

http://www.minneapolismn.gov/www/groups ... 210972.pdf

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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby PhilmerPhil » May 16th, 2018, 12:06 am

It seems like recent projects have been making massive spaces between buildings, starting with the ultra wide alleys on the Nic on 5th block. Other examples of widely spaced buildings include the KA block, behind the Radisson Red, the behind the Uptown Target, and more.

It creates a pretty poor walking environment and just makes everything seem jumbo. Are the days of tight, intimate, and human scaled urban spaces over? Does it keep happening because of code requirements or is it driven by the architects and developers?

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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby Qhaberl » May 16th, 2018, 6:39 am

I still feel like the plans look kind of bland.


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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby amiller92 » May 16th, 2018, 10:14 am

PhilmerPhil wrote:
May 16th, 2018, 12:06 am
It seems like recent projects have been making massive spaces between buildings, starting with the ultra wide alleys on the Nic on 5th block. Other examples of widely spaced buildings include the KA block, behind the Radisson Red, the behind the Uptown Target, and more.

It creates a pretty poor walking environment and just makes everything seem jumbo. Are the days of tight, intimate, and human scaled urban spaces over? Does it keep happening because of code requirements or is it driven by the architects and developers?
At KA I got the sense that it was supposed to be outdoor space for Finnegan's and the drop off for the hotel. Same for the Radisson Red, where the comings and going of guest pick up and drop off are in the alley. For those things, it makes sense.

That doesn't explain the Nic or Uptown Target, though.

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Re: Thrivent Headquarters Block - 6th St and Portland Ave

Postby xandrex » May 16th, 2018, 12:12 pm

Isn't Uptown Target's problem that both it and the adjacent apartment building wanted their own gated alleys? Lagoon even has a three-lane-wide alley because The Walkway seems to have two for whatever reason?

A real shame that they couldn't integrate these better for a superior pedestrian experience.

As for Thrivent, the building looks absolutely boring, but I'm much less concerned about the alley - it looks like it'll be more of a landscaped center-block drive with bike racks, tables, etc. But, man, there are some lifeless street walls on this thing. I really wish that, at the very least, the cafe could be on one side (say, Portland) and have the credit union move to Fifth.


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