Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby mattaudio » March 6th, 2018, 8:32 pm

mplser wrote:
March 6th, 2018, 7:08 pm
does anyone know why the ramada was demolished?
Bob Lux supposedly had plans in 2007. http://www.startribune.com/downtown-ram ... /12574026/

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby EOst » March 6th, 2018, 8:51 pm

Silophant wrote:
March 6th, 2018, 6:42 pm
No new parking, thank God, aside from three metered stalls on Hawthorne. (Which will wreck that bike lane, but whatever, I guess.)
How's that? Would these spots be a bump-in, or would they actually take the bike lane?

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby Silophant » March 6th, 2018, 9:07 pm

A bump-in, but I have zero faith that people will park close enough to the curb to be out of the bike lane. They don't at the Hewing Hotel, at least.

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby Nathan » March 7th, 2018, 8:49 am

Silophant wrote:
March 6th, 2018, 6:42 pm
Also, Grant is here ripping on their architecture, which is hilarious.
Doing the lords work, thanks grant!

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby Silophant » April 4th, 2018, 6:36 am

Image

Update from the DMNA meeting. Holy cow, they listened to community feedback.

(When it was extremely cheap to do so.)

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby Seth » April 4th, 2018, 8:25 am

They did? I just looks a bit different, but wouldn't exactly say it looks better. Feels more jumbled now with a lot of competing styles.

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby min-chi-cbus » April 4th, 2018, 8:59 am

I still can't believe this is a downtown project.

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby MNdible » April 4th, 2018, 9:11 am

Oh, it's really bad.

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby amiller92 » April 4th, 2018, 10:01 am

min-chi-cbus wrote:
April 4th, 2018, 8:59 am
I still can't believe this is a downtown project.
Right? Looks like it belongs off a freeway exit in the suburbs.

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby Nathan » April 4th, 2018, 10:19 am

Did anyone ever figure out the orientation in this image? Which street is out front?

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby SurlyLHT » April 4th, 2018, 10:36 am

Any chance the city rejects this? Did the DMNA approve?

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby Silophant » April 4th, 2018, 10:49 am

The front is Hawthorne. It'll be across the street from the Orpheum Lot, with Harbor Light behind it.

DMNA will be grudgingly sending a letter of support, but it's kinda a moot point. Barring abrupt passage of the Comp Plan changes, this project is permitted by-right. I don't even know that they'll be asking for variances. The city doesn't really have a way to shut this down.

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby SurlyLHT » April 4th, 2018, 10:54 am

Maybe something terrific will get built across the street to reduce this project's impact. Hopefully, as open space becomes scarce we get fewer projects like this.

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby downtowndweller » April 4th, 2018, 12:05 pm

A few thoughts...

A design fit for the suburbs (outer ring at that.)

Should be a slightly more affordable hotel option downtown than what currently exists.

Given the minimal investment, let's hope there is the ability to redevelop as the rest of the neighborhood builds up.

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby SurlyLHT » April 19th, 2018, 8:16 am

Here's the packet. Usually, I can spot the orientation easily, but are these buildings together facing Hawthorne, or are they an L shape with one facing the Greyhound Station and the other Hawthorne? I didn't notice a great layout of the site. The adjacent lot that will be used for valet parking by the hotel isn't owned by them. So maybe future, denser development?

http://minneapolismn.gov/www/groups/pub ... 210244.pdf

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby sanchopanza » April 19th, 2018, 8:34 am

SurlyLHT wrote:
April 19th, 2018, 8:16 am
Here's the packet. Usually, I can spot the orientation easily, but are these buildings together facing Hawthorne, or are they an L shape with one facing the Greyhound Station and the other Hawthorne? I didn't notice a great layout of the site. The adjacent lot that will be used for valet parking by the hotel isn't owned by them. So maybe future, denser development?

http://minneapolismn.gov/www/groups/pub ... 210244.pdf
It is all fronting Hawthorne. Two separate (narrow) buildings adjacent to each other. I have come to like this project, I know it's not an architectural masterpiece, but it (partially) fills in an empty lot with activity.

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby SurlyLHT » April 19th, 2018, 8:39 am

sanchopanza wrote:
April 19th, 2018, 8:34 am
SurlyLHT wrote:
April 19th, 2018, 8:16 am
Here's the packet. Usually, I can spot the orientation easily, but are these buildings together facing Hawthorne, or are they an L shape with one facing the Greyhound Station and the other Hawthorne? I didn't notice a great layout of the site. The adjacent lot that will be used for valet parking by the hotel isn't owned by them. So maybe future, denser development?

http://minneapolismn.gov/www/groups/pub ... 210244.pdf
It is all fronting Hawthorne. Two separate (narrow) buildings adjacent to each other. I have come to like this project, I know it's not an architectural masterpiece, but it (partially) fills in an empty lot with activity.
That's what I'm hoping, it'll leave space for other projects. This area is so barren presently, this project will help change that. I'm hoping the valet lot will get a tower of some sort and share a garage with the hotel someday. That's optimistic I know.

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby amiller92 » April 19th, 2018, 9:05 am

It's one door for an entire block and two short, skinny buildings. This is really a "better than nothing" but not by much situation.

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby mnmike » April 19th, 2018, 10:12 am

This will have a big visual impact on that side of downtown from the street though...as it is now, and has been for years, looking from Hennepin in this direction it feels like you are on the edge of a vast nothingness.

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Re: Cambria / Fairfield Hotels - 41 10th Street N (former Ramada block)

Postby MattW » April 19th, 2018, 10:32 am

mnmike wrote:
April 19th, 2018, 10:12 am
This will have a big visual impact on that side of downtown from the street though...as it is now, and has been for years, looking from Hennepin in this direction it feels like you are on the edge of a vast nothingness.
Agreed... I always thought that section of DT looks like DT Detroit.


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