Wells Fargo Redevelopment - 801 Portland - 16 stories - 180'

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Re: Wells Fargo Redevelopment - 801 Portland - 16 stories - 180'

Postby alexschief » March 22nd, 2019, 12:48 pm

This could double as my response to the discussion on the Elliot Park thread on the First Covenant project, but swapping retail for housing at the ground level is a good trade. Minneapolis absolutely need tons of housing, but pedestrian scale retail is one of those things that helps make dense neighborhoods possible at the fundamental level, and it really only can exist on one floor of the building. This area of downtown doesn't have many shopping options (the only quadrant of the freeway loop without a grocery store, and CVS is now closing), and so I'm happy to see these changes.

Retail can be tough to fill, and getting more small retail spaces requires a developer who can take a short term risk for a long term gain. The fact that KA is putting down roots in this neighborhood makes it all the more natural that their development here should provide this space.

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Re: Wells Fargo Redevelopment - 801 Portland - 16 stories - 180'

Postby Silophant » March 22nd, 2019, 1:07 pm

rhettcarlson wrote:
March 22nd, 2019, 12:38 pm
If I remember the renderings correctly you're right, there is a small portion next to the alley that is a single story. But all of the new retail square footage is along 8th under the tower. 3-4 walkup units on Park as shown in the plans must be staying.
Bizarre.

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Re: Wells Fargo Redevelopment - 801 Portland - 16 stories - 180'

Postby MNdible » March 22nd, 2019, 1:32 pm

alexschief wrote:
March 22nd, 2019, 12:48 pm
This could double as my response to the discussion on the Elliot Park thread on the First Covenant project, but swapping retail for housing at the ground level is a good trade.
Even though the two locations are only like three blocks away from each other, I'd argue that this location is at least 50 times better for retail than First Covenant. Housing can go pretty much anywhere and be fine, but retail is very fussy about being in the right spot.


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