Hines Speculative Office Project - 350 N 5th Street

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Re: Hines Office Project - (350 North Fifth Street)

Postby MNdible » November 13th, 2012, 9:57 pm

The extent of driveway that they're showing probably isn't necessary, but they'll need to provide for some sort of drop-off / pick-up, because the existing two lane bridge certainly can't accommodate that, and that's the only way you can get to that site by car.

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Re: Hines Office Project - (350 North Fifth Street)

Postby woofner » November 14th, 2012, 11:25 am

Last I heard they were intending to extend Dock St from Washington to a cul-de-sac below 5th St. So that would be an ideal place to put the more bloated type of drop-off depicted in the renderings. I think there could then be a modification to the 5th St Bridge where they could put a drop-off lane.
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Re: Hines Office Project - (350 North Fifth Street)

Postby mattaudio » November 14th, 2012, 11:28 am

Heh. Whenever I've dropped off people for Northstar it just involves stopping in the middle of the only traffic lane on 5th St for about 15 seconds.

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Re: Hines Office Project - (350 North Fifth Street)

Postby MNdible » November 14th, 2012, 11:41 am

redisciple wrote:Last I heard they were intending to extend Dock St from Washington to a cul-de-sac below 5th St. So that would be an ideal place to put the more bloated type of drop-off depicted in the renderings. I think there could then be a modification to the 5th St Bridge where they could put a drop-off lane.
I wonder if it would be possible/feasible to get Dock Street to connect up to 5th Street somehow, or if the grades would be too much. Having it end in a cul-de-sac is disappointing. It also occurs to me that Dock Street (the name and idea) is a completely developer driven thing at this point -- does it eventually become a city owned street? If so, are we OK with the name "Dock Street", or do we prefer something more coldly rational, like 4th Avenue North?

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Re: Hines Office Project - (350 North Fifth Street)

Postby woofner » November 14th, 2012, 2:43 pm

MNdible wrote: I wonder if it would be possible/feasible to get Dock Street to connect up to 5th Street somehow, or if the grades would be too much. Having it end in a cul-de-sac is disappointing. It also occurs to me that Dock Street (the name and idea) is a completely developer driven thing at this point -- does it eventually become a city owned street? If so, are we OK with the name "Dock Street", or do we prefer something more coldly rational, like 4th Avenue North?
I'd guess it's possible in terms of the ramping space required - the 3rd/4th St viaducts are tall enough here that you could theoretically start the incline at the vacated 3rd St. I think the bigger complications are the need to maintain access to the loading docks in the rear of the buildings along 3rd Ave, and the fact that the Cut itself is considered a contributing feature to the Warehouse District historic district - once you fill it with buildings and a street that ramps up to 5th St, what do you have left of the historic grade separation?

I guess I assumed that Dock St would remain private, but as long as you asked about the name, I prefer Dakota St:

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Re: Hines Office Project - (350 North Fifth Street)

Postby kregger22 » February 19th, 2013, 10:20 am

Found it! With the last post coming in November, any reason why there is no interest in this project around here?

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Re: Hines Office Project - (350 North Fifth Street)

Postby trkaiser » February 19th, 2013, 10:56 am

I haven't seen anything in the news about this one since then. Loved the design, and really hope to see it happen. There's been a recent change in leadership at the National Marrow Donor Program, which was rumored to be the anchor tenant of this.

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Re: Hines Office Project - (350 North Fifth Street)

Postby Avian » February 20th, 2013, 3:24 pm

Yeah, Pickard-Chilton isn't having much luck in the Twin Cities. They were going to be the architect for the Ryan supertall on the TCF site, no?

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Re: Hines Office Project - (350 North Fifth Street)

Postby lorwest » February 20th, 2013, 5:45 pm

Avian wrote:Yeah, Pickard-Chilton isn't having much luck in the Twin Cities. They were going to be the architect for the Ryan supertall on the TCF site, no?
And didn't they have some of the office space that was proposed as part of Bloomington Central Station?

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Re: Hines Office Project - (350 North Fifth Street)

Postby kregger22 » February 20th, 2013, 6:08 pm

It just seems to me with the height and possibility it might be discussed more on the site or more news would have surfaced by now. It still is listed as a project on their website.

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Re: Hines Office Project - (350 North Fifth Street)

Postby Scott16475 » June 27th, 2013, 8:05 pm

Any news on this project? I would love to see this one completed. There was also a proposed highrise residential apartment that seems to have disappeared. I can't remember the name or address but I think it was 1010 Nicollet or something like that. I haven't heard about either of these projects in several months. That's probably not good news, huh?

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Re: Hines Office Project - (350 North Fifth Street)

Postby mamundsen » October 19th, 2013, 2:10 pm

Is this what they are calling building #3 in the Dock Street Apartments thread? I see someone just posted a rendering over there that looks like this one.

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Re: Hines Office Project - (350 North Fifth Street)

Postby John » October 19th, 2013, 2:30 pm

mamundsen wrote:Is this what they are calling building #3 in the Dock Street Apartments thread? I see someone just posted a rendering over there that looks like this one.
That's my question too. The Hines office project proposal was actually two buildings with the second tower undefined as far as use. I'm wondering if that was an early conceptual idea for the residential tower because its 25 stories in the rendering. Intriguing.
Also, I'm thinking office project proposal is still alive , however, they are still looking for a lead tenant which could take awhile. With all that is going on around this site, this property just becomes more and more desirable for major development. I don't think a powerhouse developer like Hines will play small potatoes here.

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Re: Hines Office Project - (350 North Fifth Street)

Postby jet777 » October 19th, 2013, 3:21 pm

I don't believe it is the same, this one was proposed for the southeast side of the freeway viaduct. Also why is being called dock street building #3? There's only 1 dock street bldg right now?

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Re: Hines Office Project - (350 North Fifth Street)

Postby Nathan » October 20th, 2013, 5:03 pm

ok, so this office project is completely separate from the dock street residential projects... the residential project was supposed to be three buildings but they nixed the 2nd building that was going to be attached to deja vu. This office project was one office building with an option for a taller phase 2 with no sspecified purpose yet.


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