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Re: City Center

Postby MNdible » March 5th, 2019, 2:08 pm

Note that the rendering shown in the article is quite a bit different that the one from the leasing brochure above.

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Re: City Center

Postby twincitizen » March 5th, 2019, 3:09 pm

Leasing Brochure:
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MSP Biz Journals article:
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I'd guess the leasing brochure version was done purely for artistic/promotional purposes. The caption on the second image is "This is one of several "aspirational" options that City Center's management is considering for the downtown building."

So basically, both should be taken with a massive grain of salt. I've said it before, but I would absolutely support some tax abatement or TIF or whatever it takes to get the Nicollet frontage of this building right. If we can spend $50MM on Nicollet Mall, we can spend a couple million more (via abatement or whatever) to ensure that this renovation is done right, and isn't just a coat of paint.

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Re: City Center

Postby seanrichardryan » March 5th, 2019, 6:48 pm

Is one... better?
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Re: City Center

Postby twincitizen » March 6th, 2019, 11:53 am

A couple snippets from the MSP Business Journal article:

*Renovation is definitely happening, possibly as soon as this summer/fall
*The images above are "really aspirational at this point"
*owner (Samsung) has yet to approve a set budget for improvements

So let's hope that Ryan Cos (who is the property manager and presumably would be the contractor for improvements) comes up with something great and is able to sell it to Samsung.

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Re: City Center

Postby Oreos&Milk » March 6th, 2019, 7:46 pm

to me it looks like lipstick on a pig... better still but not by much. I guess I'd be more excited if that lipstick covered the full face. Yes, paint the concrete tower a darker gray, have floors where it's lighter gray like how the IDS center has it's black "belt". Or a modern mix colors that helps soften the impact. I'm no expert but surely somebody can create a paint scheme that could make it a touch less depressing? Then a bit more substance on a low budget of course. Maybe a few lighting elements or building enhancements like touches of more glass, maybe a new top like what Marq 4 was planned to have had. Not sure but would like to see some renderings...

Also if any of ya are any good at those walking on water and performing miracles in design if you want to create a color scheme to make City Center tower less offensive as it is now it would be really neat see.

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Re: City Center

Postby BigIdeasGuy » March 6th, 2019, 8:21 pm

As O&M said this is just lipstick on a pig and realistically we are never going to get rid if this pig of a tower. What I'm wondering is if would be possible to tear down the podium part of the building between the office tower and Nicollet and the ramp between the tower and Hennepin then replace them with something about 500x better? Clearly you would have to work something out with the Marriott I'm not sure how doable that is. It would reduce the terrible street frontage down to the roughly 200 feet of the tower lobby that faces 6th, which is probably the best frontage currently.

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Re: City Center

Postby amiller92 » March 7th, 2019, 10:50 am

Wait, they're renovating the tower? Or the shopping center (for lack of a better descriptor)?

Don't care at all about the tower. I care about the terrible, inward-facing shorter structure and parking ramp.

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Re: City Center

Postby mattaudio » March 7th, 2019, 11:16 am

C'mon, the tower just needs some RGB LED lighting.

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Re: City Center

Postby MNdible » March 7th, 2019, 11:30 am

The tower is just fine as is.

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Re: City Center

Postby Avian » April 19th, 2019, 4:05 pm

mattaudio wrote:
March 7th, 2019, 11:16 am
C'mon, the tower just needs some RGB LED lighting.
I've mentioned this on the Skyscrapercity forum, but for the last few weeks there has clearly been a lighting test going on the west side of the tower. Color-changing LEDs are tucked into the narrow strip just below the parapet along two of the window bays.

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