Minneapolis Density and Population Growth (500k, etc)

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Re: Minneapolis Density and Population Growth (500k, etc)

Postby RailBaronYarr » October 6th, 2017, 2:42 pm

So, I'm not sure if this is the best thread, or if the study was even shared yet, but....
http://www.minneapolismn.gov/www/groups ... 205222.pdf

This is really cool, comprehensive, etc. I won't say much on it for now, but the findings of this study run counter to the one that's been shared 'round here before. There's a *lot* of retail sales leakage from Minneapolis neighborhoods, particularly in the "Community" and "Neighborhood" retail categories. The report notes that many of those places are served quite well by the retail districts just outside the city borders. But that also ignores people who don't/can't drive who might be better served by growth in retail within the city, densification of certain neighborhoods that necessitate retail cluster growth, etc.

Anyway, food for thought.

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Re: Minneapolis Density and Population Growth (500k, etc)

Postby MNdible » October 6th, 2017, 3:09 pm

This report apparently dates back to June of 2016 but is just seeing the light of day now, and so its Nicollet Mall numbers are hugely inflated by all of the new vacant Macy's space.

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Re: Minneapolis Density and Population Growth (500k, etc)

Postby mister.shoes » October 9th, 2017, 12:26 pm

The map on Page 9 is wild. It's almost as though retail in the 'burbs is set up specifically to cater to MPLS residents.
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Postby mister.shoes » October 9th, 2017, 12:29 pm

P.S. I know it probably isn't and it's a more a function of the way the various cities grew together, with heavily-residential areas ringing older commercial areas. But it's still crazy to see so clearly in red and white like that.
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Re: Minneapolis Density and Population Growth (500k, etc)

Postby amiller92 » October 9th, 2017, 12:32 pm

Wait, would you say that the 'burbs are subsidizing Minneapolis by taking all the undesirable retail?

It's funny what happens to your shopping patterns, though, when you decide you're mostly not going to drive to shop. Turns out you can get stuff in the city just fine (helps if you're going downtown anyway).

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Minneapolis Density and Population Growth (500k, etc)

Postby Anondson » October 9th, 2017, 12:33 pm

I wonder if there could be a conversation with residents in the neighborhoods in those “retail-sheds” about what need to happen to get their shopping spending spent in Minneapolis as much as possible. Keeping local dollars spent locally helps cities and neighborhoods stay resilient, and all that Strongtowns-ish stuff.

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Re: Minneapolis Density and Population Growth (500k, etc)

Postby MNdible » October 9th, 2017, 1:17 pm

They had that conversation a while back, and it resulted in the construction of The Quarry Target.

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Re: Minneapolis Density and Population Growth (500k, etc)

Postby Anondson » October 9th, 2017, 1:46 pm

Zing!

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Re: Minneapolis Density and Population Growth (500k, etc)

Postby Sacrelicio » October 9th, 2017, 4:52 pm

MNdible wrote: They had that conversation a while back, and it resulted in the construction of The Quarry Target.
I wonder what it would look like now, with Amazon and denser development patterns.


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