Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

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kirby96
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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby kirby96 » October 6th, 2017, 8:26 am

^That works too, and references Dakota as well...

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby amiller92 » October 6th, 2017, 10:00 am

thom wrote:
October 6th, 2017, 7:39 am
Or we could just acknowledge that not everything has to be an act of political symbolism, recognize that we're really just no longer comfortable having the lake named after a person who lived in a different time and operated under different mores, and rename the lake something relatively benign. Something that even 150 years from now will continue to be non-controversial.

I vote for "Lake Minneapolis".
What's controversial about Maka Ska?

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby mplsjaromir » October 6th, 2017, 10:06 am

John C. Calhoun was not merely someone reflecting contemporary views. He actively defended slavery through his diplomatic and military duties and connections. He wrote about his dismay over England abolishing slavery. He outlined plans to expand slavery throughout the Caribbean basin. His diplomacy as an agent of the US was to support and defend slave societies in the Western Hemisphere. Despite Southern slave holders contempt for a large national military, it grew under Calhoun as a means to defend the gruesome institution of slavery.

Basically what I am saying Calhoun was a particularly bad slave owner and his name should not be on the lake.

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby MNdible » October 6th, 2017, 10:11 am

I'm not seeing anybody arguing here that the name Calhoun should stay.

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby mplsjaromir » October 6th, 2017, 10:19 am

Or we could just acknowledge that not everything has to be an act of political symbolism, recognize that we're really just no longer comfortable having the lake named after a person who lived in a different time and operated under different mores, and rename the lake something relatively benign.
Calhoun could be categorized as the most vehement and prominent slavery supporter of his time. Changing the name is not an overreaction.

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby thom » October 6th, 2017, 2:41 pm

mplsjaromir wrote:
October 6th, 2017, 10:19 am
Or we could just acknowledge that not everything has to be an act of political symbolism, recognize that we're really just no longer comfortable having the lake named after a person who lived in a different time and operated under different mores, and rename the lake something relatively benign.
Calhoun could be categorized as the most vehement and prominent slavery supporter of his time. Changing the name is not an overreaction.
As my response indicates, I clearly do not disagree. It's the renaming of the lake that is political theater. Call the lake something benign and non-controversial and let future generations enjoy it in peace.

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby talindsay » October 6th, 2017, 3:49 pm

amiller92 wrote:
October 5th, 2017, 8:31 am
Yes, wanting to honor the Dakota from whom we stole is such a shameful place for us to be...
Not dissimilar from tearing out the trees and naming the suburbs after them.

More seriously, Lake Calhoun got that name at a time when everything was being named after white men who'd had big roles in settling other white men in Minnesota. That time is over, the name is going. All the suggested replacements have their merits. Personally I like Lake Maka Ska because it reflects the current cultural sensitivities of Minneapolis and has a pleasant meaning. But it's not that important. Does it speak to the spirit of our age, and for the aspirations of those who currently live and play around it? Then good. But if they choose to call it Lake Lakeson Anderslake (my favorite tongue-in-cheek suggestion yet, thanks Evan) that's okay too. As long as the new name doesn't alienate people who want to use it, it's fine.

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby Blaisdell Greenway » October 7th, 2017, 7:57 am

Park Board, DNR, and state legislators have agreed to a 5-year permit to maintain pumping at increased levels at Hiawatha Golf Course. This will keep the course open until parties can figure out what's next.

http://www.startribune.com/minneapolis- ... 449824863/

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby VacantLuxuries » October 7th, 2017, 8:33 am

So glad they're focusing on the issues Minneapolitans care about most... :roll:

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby MNdible » October 7th, 2017, 3:12 pm

It's pretty clear a lot of Minneapolitans do care about this site. It would be weird if they didn't spend time working on it.

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby Blaisdell Greenway » December 7th, 2017, 1:44 pm

MPRB Superintendent Jayne Miller has resigned, effective Feb 2018. She is taking a job in Pittsburgh. Her contract was up later in 2018.

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby MNdible » December 7th, 2017, 1:52 pm

She saw the writing on the wall. The newly elected commissioners wanted her gone.

Bold prediction: MPRB is going to be a mess for the foreseeable future. Much money wasted on feel-good projects while the core functions are ignored.

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby RailBaronYarr » December 7th, 2017, 2:25 pm

Well, as a member of the CLIC who saw all the projects being funded with the neighborhood parks money, I can say that there's a lot of core-function-spending going on in the near-term. The city (wisely) restricted that money to those neighborhood parks by ordinance, which the park board commissioners can't change. I think there may be shifts, frustrating outcomes, whatever, but core operations and facility updates will be predictable.

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby mattaudio » December 7th, 2017, 9:39 pm

Maybe the new park board can hand back some "core functions" to the city, such as maintaining a roadway network and police force.

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby LakeCharles » December 8th, 2017, 8:57 am

The Park Police have an annual budget of $5 million, and while it's a little hard to tell precisely, parkway maintenance has an annual budget of $3 million. So that is 10% of the budget, right there.

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby amiller92 » December 8th, 2017, 1:08 pm

Sure would be nice if things like fixing crumbling sidewalks and replacing wildly out of ADA compliance "crosswalks" were "core functions."

Or, as Matt suggests, let the city do it.

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby Blaisdell Greenway » December 8th, 2017, 5:05 pm

I think keeping the city and park police departments separate are a good idea. Minneapolis has to budget an additional approx. $30,000 per officer on insurance/payout money due to their long history of nefarious activity. Park Police don't have that problem.

A LOT of the 20 year Neighborhood Parks Plan (NPP20) money will go into sidewalks, lights, benches, etc. The Park Board agreed to adding road funding as part of the NPP20 agreement because it would go towards the parkways. I think they have an agreement with the city to do all the work.

If the Park Board were to cede any functions (and they'd fight like hell against it to "stay independent"), I would suggest starting with 1. IT, and 2. replacing/augmenting the customer service department with city 311

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby Blaisdell Greenway » January 1st, 2018, 10:22 pm

Happy new year y'all. The first Park Board meeting of the year is this Tuesday the 2nd at 5:00 pm. You are welcome to join the swearing in of the new board and celebration of all the hard work we accomplished this year! The board will elect the president and make all the appointments.

Agenda is here: http://minneapolisparksmn.iqm2.com/Citi ... nline=True

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby fehler » February 22nd, 2018, 2:38 pm

New Master Plans coming for Mississippi Gorge (between #9 Bridge and Minnehaha Park), Minnehaha Parkway trail, and Southwest Service Area.

I would love better connections to the river from above.

https://www.minneapolisparks.org/news/2 ... inneapolis

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby minneboom » February 22nd, 2018, 4:35 pm

fehler wrote: I would love better connections to the river from above.
And this for the Mississippi River Gorge.

https://www.americanrivers.org/2018/01/ ... s-say-yes/


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