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Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby Anondson » March 7th, 2019, 11:26 pm

Draft concepts for Hiawatha are available. Two have nine hole golf there, a third basically a golf amusement park idea.

https://www.minneapolisparks.org/park_c ... ster_plan/

Check them all.

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Postby Silophant » March 8th, 2019, 6:49 am

Wow, look how much room for cool activities there is in concept one, with fully half the space still solely devoted to golf.

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Postby mplsjaromir » March 8th, 2019, 12:22 pm

I like concept 2.

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Postby Anondson » March 8th, 2019, 12:45 pm

Curiously the item labeled two opens a pdf labeled three, and vice versa.

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Postby Silophant » March 8th, 2019, 1:47 pm

Really, who can tell the difference between two plans to keep it a golf course?

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Postby mplsjaromir » March 8th, 2019, 5:22 pm

It would probably be one the most challenging 9 hole courses in existence.

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Postby seanrichardryan » May 27th, 2019, 8:47 pm

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Postby Didier » May 27th, 2019, 8:53 pm

Southside Pride is very pro Hiawatha Golf Course, I’ve determined.

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Postby Didier » May 27th, 2019, 8:56 pm

(Not related to this tweet. Just learning Southside Pride’s bizarrro politics and seemed like a relevant time to share)

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Postby Anondson » June 6th, 2019, 3:54 pm

Should Minnehaha parkway divert thru-drivers off the route?

http://www.startribune.com/plan-to-boos ... 510929632/

This will meet serious pushback by people used to driving it to cross the city fast.

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Postby BoredAgain » June 6th, 2019, 6:08 pm

Anondson wrote:
June 6th, 2019, 3:54 pm
Should Minnehaha parkway divert thru-drivers off the route?

http://www.startribune.com/plan-to-boos ... 510929632/

This will meet serious pushback by people used to driving it to cross the city fast.
Summary: East of Portland, the parkway would remain unchanged. From Portland to 50th at the south end of Lake Harriet there would be diverters at major roads. Local residents complain about it.

Personally I think this will be fine, but shouldn't be the city's main priority for improving bike/pedestrian safety. I am glad they aren't planning to change the eastern side because East-West travel through this section of South Minneapolis is highly constrained because of the lakes.

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Postby twincitizen » June 6th, 2019, 7:02 pm

The changes at Portland are less drastic than what was shown in some of the initial concepts. No homeowners are losing their quasi-private frontage road / parking spaces in front of their homes.

I really want to see more drastic changes to the intersections at 28th and 34th Aves. Those double-stoplight intersections can go to hell. Either pinch the two directions of the parkway together at a single standard stoplight or put in roundabouts. The latter would be my preference, but Minneapolis seems allergic to roundabouts for some reason, even though there’s excellent precedent for a bike/ped friendly roundabout at Minnehaha Ave & Minnehaha Pkwy

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby mister.shoes » June 6th, 2019, 7:06 pm

Echoing Matt’s comment on the Strib site, I don’t like the resignation to the Parkway being a commuter route east of Portland. I live right at the Parkway/Portland mess, and I want to see it calmed severely instead of allowed to stay a speedway. Figure out how to do meandering split one-ways from 35W to Cedar. Make it hard to go EB from 50th. Make it annoying to go WB from Cedar. Get creative. Come on.
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Postby mister.shoes » June 6th, 2019, 7:09 pm

I kinda like the double stoplight intersections. They feel more, um, quaint? than a pinch. It’s not a fair comparison, but Summit/Lexington is far more intimidating than Summit/anything-west-of-there-except-Snelling.

That said, I heart roundabouts.
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Postby mister.shoes » June 6th, 2019, 7:15 pm

Furthermore, because I’m apparently talkative tonight, I hate the new proposed Portland changes. I feel like they were a capitulation to commuters and loud, squeaky-wheel homeowners with creek frontage.

Also also, the rationale in the article is annoying at best. Yeah, there’s a median at the east end of 50th forcing WB traffic up the hill, but that just means drivers will be able to kamikaze their way west and not have to worry about any possible interfering traffic. I pity pedestrians and bikers wanting to cross to the north. I watched someone doing at least 40mph WB just this evening.
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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby NickP » June 6th, 2019, 9:56 pm

I actually really enjoy this drive. I find it very calming. Instead of forcing people off it, is there a way to slow people down?

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby fehler » June 7th, 2019, 7:55 am

Looking at all the diagrams, where is it forcing people off? The Y split near Portland can change to favor continuing west onto 50th, no problem, if that's what the traffic demands. The ramps up to Lyndale hitting right turn only medians, fine, should have been there already. Is that really all? I couldn't see any other "traffic calming" measures.

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby SurlyLHT » June 7th, 2019, 9:16 am

Surely, the Park Board could spend the million dollars for this one something more productive for the parks? This seems like a lot of money for something that is going to build resentment against Complete Streets initiatives. I don't go down here during rush hour, but I see how the river parkway is always jammed during rush hour. I just bike past the cars.

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Re: Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board

Postby xandrex » June 7th, 2019, 9:46 am

mister.shoes wrote:
June 6th, 2019, 7:06 pm
Echoing Matt’s comment on the Strib site, I don’t like the resignation to the Parkway being a commuter route east of Portland. I live right at the Parkway/Portland mess, and I want to see it calmed severely instead of allowed to stay a speedway. Figure out how to do meandering split one-ways from 35W to Cedar. Make it hard to go EB from 50th. Make it annoying to go WB from Cedar. Get creative. Come on.
I rarely stray into that corner of Minneapolis, and I'm loathe to provide cover for cars, but is there another good route through that area that isn't the parkway?

It looks like Minnehaha Parkway and Lake Nokomis Parkway are the only streets that provide crosstown connectivity anywhere between 43rd and Hwy 62. Presumably we don't want either parkway to be car sewers, but that's a long stretch without access.


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