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Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: September 26th, 2018, 5:52 pm
by Anondson
Grant’s money?

Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: September 26th, 2018, 7:51 pm
by Silophant
Thanks for funding the site, Grant. Couldn't happen without you.


Seanrichardryan, I'm apparently blocked by Saralyn. Is she doxing anyone else that spoke at the meeting last night?

Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: September 27th, 2018, 7:53 am
by seanrichardryan
nope

Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: September 27th, 2018, 8:07 am
by jtoemke
Thanks for funding the site, Grant. Couldn't happen without you.


Seanrichardryan, I'm apparently blocked by Saralyn. Is she doxing anyone else that spoke at the meeting last night?
You DEFINITELY should go to the next meeting. Love it

Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: September 27th, 2018, 10:07 am
by Bob Stinson's Ghost
I haven't really been watching all the excruciating details of this particular sausage being made. Is Saralyn the de-facto leader of the homeowner "resistance"?

Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: September 27th, 2018, 11:04 am
by grant1simons2
Thanks for funding the site, Grant. Couldn't happen without you.
My pennies a month go a long way

Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: September 27th, 2018, 11:35 am
by amiller92
I haven't really been watching all the excruciating details of this particular sausage being made. Is Saralyn the de-facto leader of the homeowner "resistance"?
Don't know about Saralyn, but former CM Lisa McDonald and BET chair Carol Becker have claimed to be co-founders of Minneapolis for "Everyone," the people who brought you the red signs. Former CM Tony Scallon has identified himself as a member.

This is from Minneapolis e-democracy, which I won't link to because believe me, you don't want to participate.

Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: September 28th, 2018, 2:22 pm
by atburns

Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: September 28th, 2018, 3:23 pm
by Mooglemuffins
Oooh very nice!

Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: September 28th, 2018, 4:11 pm
by EOst
Wow. They cut the entire Vision Zero section.

Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: September 29th, 2018, 5:14 am
by Tiller
Wow. They cut the entire Vision Zero section.
How progressive!

(not) 🙄

Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: September 29th, 2018, 8:00 am
by tmart
Wow! It's worse in just about every way! Goes to show you that democracy is still accessible to wealthy landowners just like the founding fathers wanted.

The plan is still a huge improvement over the status quo, but it's disappointing to see concessions being made entirely in the regressive suburban direction.

Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: September 30th, 2018, 5:13 pm
by Chef
Wow! It's worse in just about every way! Goes to show you that democracy is still accessible to wealthy landowners just like the founding fathers wanted.

The plan is still a huge improvement over the status quo, but it's disappointing to see concessions being made entirely in the regressive suburban direction.
It is also possible that the original plan was purposely more aggressive than what they really wanted to enact so they could present the real plan as the compromise. Four stories by right along transit corridors in the outer neighborhoods is still much more dense than what is currently allowed for. And based on the construction I have seen this summer it looks like threeplexes pencil in better than fourplexes in terms of cost.

Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: October 1st, 2018, 6:22 am
by Mooglemuffins
Wow! It's worse in just about every way! Goes to show you that democracy is still accessible to wealthy landowners just like the founding fathers wanted.

The plan is still a huge improvement over the status quo, but it's disappointing to see concessions being made entirely in the regressive suburban direction.
It is also possible that the original plan was purposely more aggressive than what they really wanted to enact so they could present the real plan as the compromise. Four stories by right along transit corridors in the outer neighborhoods is still much more dense than what is currently allowed for. And based on the construction I have seen this summer it looks like threeplexes pencil in better than fourplexes in terms of cost.
Yeah that definitely could be the case. It's really telling that the article that got posted to streets.mn the other day about the distribution of signs in yards against 2040 are all the really rich homeowner neighborhoods.

Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: October 2nd, 2018, 2:21 pm
by Multimodal
Could F&C have chosen an uglier set of fourplexes to illustrate their point?

No, they could not.

https://finance-commerce.com/2018/10/ne ... f-density/

Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: October 14th, 2018, 1:05 pm
by Bakken2016
http://www.startribune.com/find-out-how ... 489889431/

This is a really neat infographic put together by Star Tribune showing how the zoning would change with 2040.

Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: October 14th, 2018, 5:07 pm
by Multimodal
Corridor 4: “… New and remodeled buildings here should be 1 to 4 stories.”

Is there any reason to have 1-story buildings anymore, other than in industrial areas?

Shouldn’t you have to beg (via a variance) to get a 1-story building nowadays?

Sure, allow them, but are they the norm?

Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: October 15th, 2018, 8:08 pm
by Anondson
With threats of a lawsuit to force the city to conduct environmental review on upzoning, a lawyer looked at the law around comprehensive plans and says comp plans are exempted from environmental review by state law.

https://twitter.com/WedgeLIVE/status/10 ... 4018693120


Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: October 29th, 2018, 5:39 pm
by hoffm83n
wasnt able to get to city hall but just turned on the livestream. the difference in demographics from what i saw at the hennepin county service center i just came from is striking.

Re: Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan

Posted: October 30th, 2018, 10:27 am
by amiller92
It was kind of fascinating hearing (although I missed some and left before it was over). But lots of interesting demographics. Maybe three people of color(?), two of whom testified in opposition because the plan did not do enough to protect people and businesses of color from displacement (hard to object to that concern).

Otherwise, the usual concerns about process and parking, and truly bizarre notions of environmental harms from density (ignoring the harms of sprawl) dominated the early testimony, from older people who live in SW and near the lakes who got there early to grab seats and sign up gave way over time to younger people concerned about housing prices, scarcity, diversity and climate change. The starkness of the age gap was pretty fascinating. Lots of concerns about greedy developers from the antis. No cheering of developer profits from the pros.

WedgeLive summary: http://wedgelive.com/2018/10/mpls-2040- ... #more-1468
My thread of tweets (typos and all): https://twitter.com/ajm6792/status/1057023748056997888