MPS Comprehensive District Design

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Tyler
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Re: MPS Comprehensive District Design

Postby Tyler » March 18th, 2020, 8:16 pm

I'm assuming they've considered this (at least a little) but the wealthy kids in kenwood that they think will save north won't save north....because they wont go to north. They will move or go to private school.
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Re: MPS Comprehensive District Design

Postby QuietBlue » March 19th, 2020, 7:18 am

Tyler wrote:
March 18th, 2020, 8:16 pm
I'm assuming they've considered this (at least a little) but the wealthy kids in kenwood that they think will save north won't save north....because they wont go to north. They will move or go to private school.
Or go to a charter school, or open enroll in another district -- Minnesota is one of the most friendly states to interdistrict enrollment.

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Re: MPS Comprehensive District Design

Postby fehler » March 19th, 2020, 7:21 am

North is already empty because everyone now open enrolls to Hopkins or Minnetonka. Perhaps the thinking is "maybe if our attendance area looks more well-off, the local families will treat the local school with more respect and work to improve it."

I think any Kenwood family that can afford private school is already in private school.

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Re: MPS Comprehensive District Design

Postby Tyler » March 19th, 2020, 9:34 am

fehler wrote:
March 19th, 2020, 7:21 am
I think any Kenwood family that can afford private school is already in private school.
In my personal experience this is definitely not true. There is a huge contingent Kenwood area families (and I don't mean Kenwood the neighborhood, i mean the elementary school zone) that can afford private school and are happy (even enthused) with the current pathway. In my opinion those are the kids that will not go to North. A lot of these people are "public school" people philosophically, so I think many of these families will just move out of the district and into Southwest or St Louis Park or Golden Valley.
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Re: MPS Comprehensive District Design

Postby talindsay » March 19th, 2020, 12:46 pm

Yes, that's a really key point - a lot of liberal wealthy people are "public school" philosophically, but that doesn't mean they'll take big risks about the quality of their kids' schools. They'll stay in the public schools as long as they're allowed to select a school they think is good enough, but if MPS doesn't give them the right options they'll either open enroll in another school district or they'll go private.

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Re: MPS Comprehensive District Design

Postby twincitizen » March 28th, 2020, 5:03 pm


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Re: MPS Comprehensive District Design

Postby fehler » March 30th, 2020, 8:22 am

Interesting, no more community K-8s. The K-8s in my area (Lake Nokomis, Folwell, Field/Hale) going to K-5 may be in improvement, smaller area focus hopefully means smaller school population. It also looks like it will be easier to close schools in the future, if all the adjacent schools have the same grades/programs.

South/Anderson becomes Lake Street High. Half of Sanford's population will shift, losing a bunch to Anderson while absorbing all the Lake Nokomis students.

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Re: MPS Comprehensive District Design

Postby twincitizen » March 30th, 2020, 9:14 am

They do seem to have corrected some of the more obvious flaws in earlier plans. The biggest geographic "problem" remains the location of North High...it's at the very northern edge of its attendance area, drawing kids from as far south as 36th Street. For comparison, Anwatin Middle has the exact same attendance area as North High, but it sits more in the middle of that zone. And North High just isn't well-located for transit service. North High sits right between the C and D Lines (a few blocks walk from either Penn or Emerson Aves, not sure about station locations). It's closer to the 7 on Plymouth, but that doesn't serve much of its area. I still see no way how this part of the plan works unless they're bringing back yellow school buses for high school kids or designing a new Metro Transit route from Uptown to North that doesn't go downtown (which is not a bad idea on its own. With the C Line running, maybe the old 19 can come down Van White and run to Uptown Station or pair up with a branch of another route)

Not sure what the renovation status is on that school building, but if they are serious about retaining kids in the district (both from north and south), perhaps MPS should be studying a new high school location somewhere near Glenwood & the impound lot property (basically on Van White Blvd -- "Van Freeman White High School" has a nice ring to it (even though he attended Patrick Henry). Having a brand new Minneapolis high school accessible by SWLRT (and the C Line coming from North) would make good sense anyways (ignoring current budget constraints), but it would especially make sense for this attendance area. The main reason being kids from south of 394 could actually get there.


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