Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby thatchio » January 26th, 2018, 8:47 pm

There are options other than "you live in a city so deal" and "compensate them for their impacts." Pile driving is only one method of earth retention, all with their differing levels of external impacts, design impacts, and costs. Months of pile driving right next to your home would be incredibly frustrating, especially when they're associated with projects that are generally slightly larger than what many of the master plans identify as the typology targeted for a location. While many of us think this scale of development is appropriate, construction impacts and generally larger scales than (in many cases) directly called for in plans, is kind of lame.

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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby seanrichardryan » January 26th, 2018, 9:22 pm

Excavation could be completed with a steam shovel and wood cribbing, but they clearly didn't see that as an option.
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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby FISHMANPET » January 26th, 2018, 9:51 pm

seanrichardryan wrote:
January 26th, 2018, 9:22 pm
Excavation could be completed with a steam shovel and wood cribbing, but they clearly didn't see that as an option.
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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby mplser » January 26th, 2018, 10:14 pm

pile driving is loud

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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby seanrichardryan » January 26th, 2018, 10:23 pm

FISHMANPET wrote:
January 26th, 2018, 9:51 pm
seanrichardryan wrote:
January 26th, 2018, 9:22 pm
Excavation could be completed with a steam shovel and wood cribbing, but they clearly didn't see that as an option.
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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby Bob Stinson's Ghost » January 27th, 2018, 12:58 am

I'm glad you guys are having fun joking about it, but when you have to try and live your life a hundred feet away form that kind of noise and vibration I can assure you it's no joke. The vibration is comparable to what you might experience from having a large helicopter hovering 50 feet above your house. Your doors and windows are vibrating, things are falling off shelves (I have to take everything off the stove when they are operating it), and it takes an hour or two for the headache to go away. I've been putting up with this for over 3 months. I am amazed that it's legal to subject people to this kind of abuse.

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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby NickP » January 27th, 2018, 1:02 am

That sounds super tough. I’m sorry you are going through that. (Especially the headaches)

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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby thatchio » January 27th, 2018, 10:23 am

Just saying that there often are alternatives. I worked on a project that used a grout-injected auger method and vibrated steel beam into the grout. Used that method as it was close to an adjacent business that would have had its revenue negatively impacted by noise.

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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby Bob Stinson's Ghost » January 27th, 2018, 11:50 am

thatchio wrote:
January 27th, 2018, 10:23 am
Just saying that there often are alternatives. I worked on a project that used a grout-injected auger method and vibrated steel beam into the grout. Used that method as it was close to an adjacent business that would have had its revenue negatively impacted by noise.
As word spreads and people realize that the new project coming to their neighborhood may include the chance to experience pile driver operation up close and personal it's only going to harden the opposition of the long term residents. It's really in the best interest of those who advocate large projects like this to explore alternative construction methods which reduce the impact of the projects on the people who already live there.

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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby amiller92 » January 29th, 2018, 10:20 am

thatchio wrote:
January 26th, 2018, 8:47 pm
While many of us think this scale of development is appropriate... generally larger scales than (in many cases) directly called for in plans, is kind of lame.
Not at all.

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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby Bob Stinson's Ghost » January 29th, 2018, 11:06 am

The FAR variance rejection looks like theater to me. Every once in a while the Planning Commission tries to prove they're not just a rubber stamp for developers.

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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby ko123 » February 1st, 2018, 4:53 pm

Sheet pile appears to be done.

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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby Bob Stinson's Ghost » February 1st, 2018, 6:36 pm

No piledriver action for a week now. I'm starting to get whatever small amount of sanity I used to have back.

Now we've moved into the excavator and dump trucks part of the project. It's been a parade of dump trucks down Garfield. There were 6 of them idling on the site yesterday. They were lined up out onto 26th street. Come on down folks, there's plenty of diesel exhaust to go around! Perhaps lining my lungs with ultrafine particulates will protect them from ozone damage.

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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby SurlyLHT » February 6th, 2018, 4:25 pm

MinnPost wrote a piece on this project. It may be in jeopardy according to the author.

https://www.minnpost.com/politics-polic ... es-urban-d

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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby Bob Stinson's Ghost » February 6th, 2018, 4:59 pm

SurlyLHT wrote:
February 6th, 2018, 4:25 pm
MinnPost wrote a piece on this project. It may be in jeopardy according to the author.

https://www.minnpost.com/politics-polic ... es-urban-d
Yes, they're making Gerberding sweat a little bit to make it look good. But seriously, this is Minneapolis, where the developer always wins. This is all theater.

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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby MNdible » February 6th, 2018, 5:43 pm

Wait, I thought the NIMBY's always win?

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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby Nick » February 6th, 2018, 5:55 pm

I believe it’s that the house always wins:

http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/2012081 ... lways-wins

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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby Bob Stinson's Ghost » February 6th, 2018, 6:13 pm

Nick wrote:
February 6th, 2018, 5:55 pm
I believe it’s that the house always wins:

http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/2012081 ... lways-wins
Lol! Almost invariably the house loses and the apartment building wins. In this case multiple houses lost. The city wants tax base and the developer wants to turn a profit. If you lived in the neighborhood before the project you learn to love it or you move. It really is that simple.

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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby Silophant » February 6th, 2018, 8:32 pm

You're right. Just the other day I crossed the Hennepin Avenue Bridge and went past the 30-story tower that they built on the Nye's site, overriding neighborhood disapproval.

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Re: Rex 26 - 2601 Lyndale Ave S

Postby Bob Stinson's Ghost » February 7th, 2018, 12:39 am

Pretty much every project is built in the face of virulent opposition from the neighborhood. It doesn't even matter, apparently, if you and your neighbors have deep enough pockets to pursue things all the way to the Minnesota Supreme Court: the developer *always* wins.


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