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Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 4:04 pm
by bubzki2
Whoa, this is Awesome! I wonder if the roofdeck would be part of Rudolph's? I'm amazed they would change buildings...

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 4:05 pm
by Nathan
This. Needs. To. Happen. Seriously this could be one of the most important things to happen in this neighborhood since. forever. lol.

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 4:06 pm
by TommyT
So I'm not seeing anywhere where it says that Rudolph's is changing buildings? Why am I missing this?

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 4:08 pm
by bubzki2
Marquee signage on renderings... maybe speculative?

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 4:09 pm
by TommyT
Good eye! I didn't even notice that. Very interesting.

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 4:13 pm
by lordmoke
Oh man. When I heard about this yesterday I thought, "Well, this will have to be at least partially on the lot that Rudolph's owns, and it'll have a retail/ restaurant component- maybe Rudolph's will move into the new building and sell their old location for redevelopment. They could make a killing." Honestly a little surprised to see this play out that logically. I bet after this is done we're going to get another new building on the NE corner of this intersection!

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 4:15 pm
by Tyler
Very cool.

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 4:40 pm
by uptowncarag
With the ramp is there room for a Trader Joes?

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 4:52 pm
by Nick
twincitizen wrote:If 24th and Colfax is Uptown, and the Burch Steakhouse building is Uptown...this is definitely in the realm of "greater Uptown". This forum uses a "Realtor's definition of Uptown", or everything between Grand Avenue and the Lakes, from 94 down to 36th Street.

http://www.ouruptown.com/2010/11/border ... es-uptown/
I intentionally put it in Minneapolis - General when I split the thread off, but move it if you want to.

Otherwise, this is pretty neat. I walk by that corner a couple times a week on my way to the Wedge and have been hoping for something cool to happen there, because it definitely needed some kind of improvement. So if Rudolph's moves into this, I wonder if the current Rudolph's building will get redeveloped?

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 6:19 pm
by bubzki2
Even the Strib picked up on the importance of this http://www.startribune.com/local/blogs/242823261.html

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 6:47 pm
by Nick
Also, looking at this a second time, it doesn't look like the elevation in the rendering is anywhere near the actual grade of Franklin heading west. I don't suppose it matters a ton, just noticed that.

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 9:06 pm
by seanrichardryan
Initial thoughts-

-Its big.
-I like the structured hidden parking.
-A roof patio facing the rear windows of the adjacent properties on Aldrich? I'd like to see how those two will relate in section.
-WHERE ARE THEY MOVING MY TAILOR???

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 9:29 pm
by Anondson
Genius move to offer public parking. In a neighborhood where parking is in scary demand, this will earn friends fast.

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 10:17 pm
by David Greene
Anondson wrote:Genius move to offer public parking. In a neighborhood where parking is in scary demand, this will earn friends fast.
I don't think so. There were rumblings about this project last month. People are hyper-sensitive. I'm not making a judgement, just reporting observations.

Setbacks are likely going to be a poblem, as will height.

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 11:14 pm
by Nathan
Good thing I'm an owner in the neighborhood now, right? they have to listen to me and build it. ;)

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 11:22 pm
by David Greene
The design of this is a big disappointment to me. I kind of dig the park-on-parking concept but the overall building presence is underwhelming. The renderings have the double-negative of bland cookie-cutter design married to a hulk of a building that appears to loom over the very nice historic appartment buildings on Franklin.

I'm reserving judgement on this until I learn more but it's gonna be an uphill battle to get this built.

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 11:24 pm
by David Greene
Nick wrote:Also, looking at this a second time, it doesn't look like the elevation in the rendering is anywhere near the actual grade of Franklin heading west. I don't suppose it matters a ton, just noticed that.
You're right and I think it matters A LOT. The way the renderings look now, this building dwarfs the historic apartment buildings on Franklin. That doesn't look very neighborly. The rendering could possibly look much better if they got the grade right. It's kind of scary they got it so wrong.

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 30th, 2014, 11:54 pm
by Nathan
David Greene wrote:The design of this is a big disappointment to me. I kind of dig the park-on-parking concept but the overall building presence is underwhelming. The renderings have the double-negative of bland cookie-cutter design married to a hulk of a building that appears to loom over the very nice historic appartment buildings on Franklin.

I'm reserving judgement on this until I learn more but it's gonna be an uphill battle to get this built.
Very nice historic buildings on Franklin? You're being EXTREMELY Generous. They are old, and they sure could be nice.. I live north of Franklin on Aldrich, none of the buildings directly on Franklin are maintained very well. (funny how all of those 10's/20's buildings look a like too, similar brick and size, almost cookie cutter like, but vintage cookies, so that's cool).

If opus can build on the House of Hanson Site without any former tenants committed, and Save Dinkytown against it, This can get built with Theatre Garage and Rudolph's behind it. It's not outstanding or even perfect, but it's definitely good.

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 31st, 2014, 12:03 am
by seanrichardryan
Second thoughts:

This looks terrible viewed toward franklin.
I hate Collage Architects style of renderings.
Looks dated and unfriendly, in a 1970s office park kind of way.

Re: Franklin & Lyndale Redevelopment

Posted: January 31st, 2014, 6:49 am
by FranklinAveFixation
While it is tacky looking.. it's nothing worse than the stuff going on further south. I think we're all dreaming if we think they would design something that fits in better.
That said, it is an improvement from the status quo, right??
I foresee the "former" Rudolph's becoming a white elephant on the street & my biggest fear is the so-called "bro's" will be migrating north to my hood.