Seventeen10 - 1710 W Lake St (next to 1800 Lake)

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Seventeen10 - 1710 W Lake St (next to 1800 Lake)

Postby twincitizen » December 10th, 2014, 8:02 am

CPM is planning a project directly adjacent to 1800 Lake (the one with the water pumping issue & lawsuit). It would replace a single family home (1714) and a triplex (1708). The two properties to the east, housing Ban Sabai Salon (1704) and the palm reading place (1700), are not included in this development. It was previously rumored that all 4 properties would be part of a 6-story development. No height or unit count has been announced yet for this "boutique" project, but we'll know more in January when they present to the East Isles n'hood.

It will be interesting to see how the approval timeline lines up with the announcement of a proposed solution for the water pumping at 1800 Lake. Several solutions have been proposed, but AFAIK none has been selected/announced yet. One solution not favored by CPM includes simply filling in the lower level of the parking garage at 1800 Lake. Developing the rest of the block could have provided the opportunity to build replacement parking spaces, but that probably won't be an option in this smaller development. Another option available to CPM included treating/chilling the water before it is released into the storm sewer, but it is unknown if that will be acceptable to the city. See the Uptown General Topics for more discussion on this.

http://www.southwestjournal.com/news/de ... 714-w-lake

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Re: CPM Mixed-Use - 1708 & 1714 Lake St W

Postby grant1simons2 » December 10th, 2014, 10:30 am

Kind of wish they would take out the Mind reader house and the home next to that instead of the one with a nice pine tree and in a lot better condition.

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Re: CPM Mixed-Use - 1708 & 1714 Lake St W

Postby lordmoke » December 10th, 2014, 10:35 am

I like that this is only taking two of the houses. It means that the two remaining homes will be redeveloped later (there's no way they stick around in the long term at this location) giving us two smaller projects instead of another half-block beast.

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Re: CPM Mixed-Use - 1708 & 1714 Lake St W

Postby twincitizen » December 10th, 2014, 11:01 am

I can't be the only one surprised that 1714 W Lake is a legit single family house (and homesteaded!), according to Hennepin County records. Super unlikely, right? You'd think someone would've carved that up into a duplex or triplex long ago, as they did with the house next door. Still, the owner is likely to fetch a really nice profit in the sale. The assessed value is $555,500. The previous sale date/price is not listed, which I presume means that they've owned it for quite a while. It's actually assessed significantly higher than the triplex next door and the adjacent houses with commercial uses in them. It's clearly in better shape than any of those properties, but it must be really, really nice on the inside to warrant that valuation (especially since SFH vs. commercial)

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Re: CPM Mixed-Use - 1708 & 1714 Lake St W

Postby twincitizen » December 15th, 2014, 12:45 am

Re: 1800 Lake.

They're gonna flood the lower level: http://www.southwestjournal.com/news/ne ... water-flow

Strib: http://www.startribune.com/local/minnea ... 90151.html


EDIT: Settlement reached. They'll pay the city $300k and stop pumping by March 31. http://www.southwestjournal.com/news/ne ... -agreement

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Re: CPM Mixed-Use - 1708 & 1714 Lake St W

Postby MNdible » December 15th, 2014, 9:54 am

Yeah, it's seemed like all along this was the only real solution to a problem of the developer's own making.

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Re: Seventeen 10 - CPM Development (next to 1800 Lake)

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Re: Seventeen 10 - CPM Development (next to 1800 Lake)

Postby TommyT » January 22nd, 2015, 2:59 pm

Those corner windows though! I would DIE! I love them! Otherwise relatively unimpressive. I give it a Meh.

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Re: CPM Mixed-Use - 1708 & 1714 Lake St W

Postby David Greene » January 22nd, 2015, 9:52 pm

grant1simons2 wrote:Kind of wish they would take out the Mind reader house and the home next to that instead of the one with a nice pine tree and in a lot better condition.
Meh. It has vinyl siding and soffits, vinyl windows and the typical inappropriately narrow barebones trim that implies. Anything of exterior value has long since been lost. Could it be restored? Sure, but who would want to? I imagine the interior has been similarly gutted but if not, it'll make great salvage!

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Re: Seventeen 10 - CPM Development (next to 1800 Lake)

Postby twincitizen » January 27th, 2015, 11:13 pm

http://www.southwestjournal.com/news/de ... r[quote]To help offset the lost parking [at 1800 Lake], the new project next door would contain one level of underground parking connected to 1800 Lake, with 23 legal and five tandem spaces.

Additional parking for the new tenants, amounting to 14 legal and seven tandem spaces, would stand on the first level of the new building, with retail fronting Lake Street. The second floor is slated for office space; the third floor would hold six apartments; and the fourth floor, set back from the building edge, would contain a single 2,000-square-foot apartment.[/quote]

Aside from the 2,000 sf penthouse on the 4th floor, it seems this is pretty much a repeat of 16Twenty. A boutique project with retail, office, and 6 apartments. Interesting (but logical) that the underground parking level will have direct access into 1800 Lake next door. Makes me wonder if the eventual redevelopment on the remaining 2 lots to the east will be connected as well, making the whole thing one complex. From a management standpoint that would seem to be preferable. You gotta figure CPM is actively trying to buy those 2 lots.

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Re: Seventeen 10 - CPM Development (next to 1800 Lake)

Postby John » January 28th, 2015, 1:28 am

twincitizen wrote:Aside from the 2,000 sf penthouse on the 4th floor, it seems this is pretty much a repeat of 16Twenty. A boutique project with retail, office, and 6 apartments. Interesting (but logical) that the underground parking level will have direct access into 1800 Lake next door. Makes me wonder if the eventual redevelopment on the remaining 2 lots to the east will be connected as well, making the whole thing one complex. From a management standpoint that would seem to be preferable. You gotta figure CPM is actively trying to buy those 2 lots.
Agree, the Seventeen 10 is almost an identical bookend to 16Twenty. I think your hunch they want to buy the houses between them to redevelop is a good bet.

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Re: Seventeen 10 - CPM Development (next to 1800 Lake)

Postby nickmgray » January 31st, 2015, 8:09 am

No real standout feature, but I like it. I'd rather have 3-5 mis-matched small buildings like this on a block than one massive project.

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Re: Seventeen 10 - CPM Development (next to 1800 Lake)

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Re: Seventeen 10 - CPM Development (next to 1800 Lake)

Postby min-chi-cbus » March 31st, 2015, 9:58 am

Okay, this may be silly, but is there any way those evergreen and [oak?] trees can be salvaged? They sort of make this site charming, and I'd hate to see them go -- especially considering their size.

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Re: Seventeen 10 - CPM Development (next to 1800 Lake)

Postby aeisenberg » March 31st, 2015, 11:48 am

Looks like this project is a net decrease in density.
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Re: Seventeen 10 - CPM Development (next to 1800 Lake)

Postby twincitizen » March 31st, 2015, 11:51 am

How do you figure?

7 apartment units AND commercial space > 4 existing dwelling units (SF + Triplex) and no commercial space.

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Re: Seventeen 10 - CPM Development (next to 1800 Lake)

Postby RailBaronYarr » March 31st, 2015, 12:55 pm

Viewed another way, the 2 homes had a total 5 BRs according to the city's property info site. The CPM structure has 13 BRs. Plus the office and commercial space. Definite net increase in density/usage.

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Re: Seventeen 10 - CPM Development (next to 1800 Lake)

Postby Wedgeguy » May 14th, 2015, 10:50 am

Saw fences up along Lake Street today, Was not able to get far enough down Lake to see what type of pre demo work they maybe have been doing.

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Re: Seventeen 10 - CPM Development (next to 1800 Lake)

Postby Wedgeguy » July 29th, 2015, 5:25 pm

This seems to be at a stand still. While there is fence up, there seems to have been little of any demolition of the houses so far when I checked it out this afternoon.

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Re: Seventeen10 - 1710 W Lake St (next to 1800 Lake)

Postby lovethyneighborhood » August 26th, 2015, 10:16 am

Just walked past this morning and it appears that the site has now been cleared. Hardly any "old" homes along this end of Lake St. are standing anymore.


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