Hiawatha-Minnehaha Ave Development & RR Corridor/Grain Elevators

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Re: Hiawatha-Minnehaha Ave Development & RR Corridor/Grain Elevators

Postby HiawathaGuy » September 4th, 2018, 9:57 am

Hiawatha-Minnehaha Corridor.jpg
I think it's pretty exciting to think about all the new/proposed units from E 42nd to E 54th along Hiawatha & Minnehaha currently!
I created a map with yellow dots for the proposed units and blue for under construction units along the corridor. I came up with about 897 units, which is great to see, since the Blue and A Lines both run through here.
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Postby twincitizen » September 6th, 2018, 9:54 am

Nice map!

I didn't go to the meeting Tuesday night, so I don't know how it went (assume very poorly). LCC has scheduled another, much longer meeting for October 9:
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An hour and 25 minutes for each project? Ouch. Their previous committee meeting on 9/4 dedicated just 20-25 minutes to each, which is probably on the short side for each NIMBY to "be heard". But this is just too much...I'll probably skip the first item (on Minnehaha & 46th, only 4 stories, great design...slam dunk) and attend for the second one near the falls (replacing Bridgemans/SomTaste restaurant building). Even though that site borders zero residences and doesn't even share an alley with anything other than the strip mall, I'm guessing lots of folks will oppose it simply out of fear of change, not wanting a 6-story building anywhere in the area, etc. That one probably needs the public support a little more.

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Re: Hiawatha-Minnehaha Ave Development & RR Corridor/Grain Elevators

Postby mister.shoes » September 6th, 2018, 11:41 am

You should get some clarification on which one goes first. The images are swapped relative to the descriptions. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Postby kdo5581 » September 7th, 2018, 11:30 am

Does anyone know if these two need variances or CUPs?

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Re: Hiawatha-Minnehaha Ave Development & RR Corridor/Grain Elevators

Postby NickP » September 14th, 2018, 10:57 am

Here is a link to the plans of building shown in the upper image. http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/www/gro ... 214028.pdf

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Re: Hiawatha-Minnehaha Ave Development & RR Corridor/Grain Elevators

Postby HiawathaGuy » September 14th, 2018, 12:25 pm

Sure is, thanks!
I think it looks nice.
If this transitions the strip mall north of it to continue building up - even better.
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Re: Hiawatha-Minnehaha Ave Development & RR Corridor/Grain Elevators

Postby twincitizen » October 4th, 2018, 9:17 am

Mod note: Discussion of Phase II of the Oppidan development (Cub Foods mixed use, now named 'Lowa46') has been moved to that thread: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=4165&start=80

This thread can continue to be a catch-all for the other developments in the area.

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Re: Hiawatha-Minnehaha Ave Development & RR Corridor/Grain Elevators

Postby twincitizen » October 31st, 2018, 10:50 pm

Meeting recap: http://www.longfellownokomismessenger.c ... ha-handle/

Concerns about traffic and parking. The back of my head is featured in the photo at the beginning of the article

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Re: Hiawatha-Minnehaha Ave Development & RR Corridor/Grain Elevators

Postby mattaudio » November 1st, 2018, 8:20 am

While I like seeing this greenway concept in all of the drawings, how to greenway planners see this crossing busy streets such as 46th St? The Oppidan project (Cub) includes a new stoplight at Snelling, right? Therefore I can't imagine Hennepin County having an appetite for a signalized crosswalk at the greenway.

It's such a shame we have a corner with two stroads, a Walgreens, and a gas station between all of this and the 46th St Blue Line station. Or will people be taking the A-Line to the Blue Line station two blocks away? Heh.

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Re: Hiawatha-Minnehaha Ave Development & RR Corridor/Grain Elevators

Postby amiller92 » November 1st, 2018, 9:36 am

twincitizen wrote:
October 31st, 2018, 10:50 pm
Meeting recap: http://www.longfellownokomismessenger.c ... ha-handle/

Concerns about traffic and parking. The back of my head is featured in the photo at the beginning of the article
Man, I go that way on my commute sometimes and pretty much every time I have to stop at Minnehaha and 46th, I notice that there's way more lane capacity than needed. 46th is literally never backed up at all. Add all the new stuff and it still likely needs a road diet.

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Re: Hiawatha-Minnehaha Ave Development & RR Corridor/Grain Elevators

Postby EOst » November 1st, 2018, 9:41 am

mattaudio wrote:
November 1st, 2018, 8:20 am
While I like seeing this greenway concept in all of the drawings, how to greenway planners see this crossing busy streets such as 46th St? The Oppidan project (Cub) includes a new stoplight at Snelling, right? Therefore I can't imagine Hennepin County having an appetite for a signalized crosswalk at the greenway.
Even without a signal, a refuge island would make it workable. The crossings at Charles/Dale, Charles/Snelling etc. have higher traffic counts than anything along the greenway route and are still basically fine.

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Re: Hiawatha-Minnehaha Ave Development & RR Corridor/Grain Elevators

Postby minneboom » November 1st, 2018, 9:58 pm

Hopefully this study will address how the Greenway will safely cross 46th Street. I agree that a refuge island would work most of the time.

https://www.hennepin.us/e46streetstudy

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Re: Hiawatha-Minnehaha Ave Development & RR Corridor/Grain Elevators

Postby minneboom » November 1st, 2018, 10:45 pm

minneboom wrote:
November 1st, 2018, 9:58 pm
Hopefully this study will address how the Greenway will safely cross 46th Street. Emailing Hennepin County and asking them about it will probably help. I agree that a refuge island would work most of the time.

https://www.hennepin.us/e46streetstudy

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Postby squrtis » November 29th, 2018, 10:17 am

Any idea what the green line on Dight is referring to?

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Re: Hiawatha-Minnehaha Ave Development & RR Corridor/Grain Elevators

Postby Anondson » November 29th, 2018, 11:30 am

This is exciting and could be a huge catalyst more than LRT.

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Re: Hiawatha-Minnehaha Ave Development & RR Corridor/Grain Elevators

Postby go4guy » November 30th, 2018, 8:46 pm

Does anyone know what the uses are along this stretch of track that is still in use and keeping these tracks in place? Seems like such a waste of good real estate to have this type of use here. Any plans to remove some of the track near Snelling Yards and further south where this obviously no longer a use?

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Re: Hiawatha-Minnehaha Ave Development & RR Corridor/Grain Elevators

Postby amiller92 » December 1st, 2018, 6:54 pm

go4guy wrote:
Does anyone know what the uses are along this stretch of track that is still in use and keeping these tracks in place? Seems like such a waste of good real estate to have this type of use here. Any plans to remove some of the track near Snelling Yards and further south where this obviously no longer a use?
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Re: Hiawatha-Minnehaha Ave Development & RR Corridor/Grain Elevators

Postby Silophant » December 1st, 2018, 7:12 pm

Technically, Metro Transit as well, as new LRVs are unloaded just south of the Sabo bridge, but presumably they'll build a new one somewhere in the eightish miles the Green Line extension will parallel the freight line.

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Re: Hiawatha-Minnehaha Ave Development & RR Corridor/Grain Elevators

Postby DanPatchToget » December 1st, 2018, 8:42 pm

Based on just looking on Google Earth, the majority of the track is just for storing the hopper cars that go through the ADM mills. Besides that its just the "mainline" track so locomotives can actually get to those hopper cars, and the spurs to unload grain and the one spur for the metal recycling place. Not sure if this is still the case, but there was a little switcher locomotive stored inside the building adjacent to the 35th Street crossing on the south side (street view here-https://www.google.com/maps/@44.939532, ... 312!8i6656). I don't know what it is/was used for, but my only guess is for sorting through all the hopper cars.


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