Southwest - General Topics (Linden Hills, Fulton, et al)

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Re: Southwest - General Topics (Linden Hills, Fulton, et al)

Postby amiller92 » January 25th, 2018, 2:51 pm

I believe that the author genuinely believes that Linden Hills is somehow under threat.

I don't get how he thinks it's fragile or what he thinks is threatening it. The neighbors successfully shrunk both of the only two multi-family proposal that come to mind in the area. Where's all this deadly density supposed to be?

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Re: Southwest - General Topics (Linden Hills, Fulton, et al)

Postby schwinnletour » January 25th, 2018, 3:22 pm

David, I see your point that the author may truly believe that a 4 story condo building should not get built on that parcel of land. What I don't think is appropriate is to throw out qualitative catchphrases in the letter with the intent of them being read as factual statements by the uninformed.

Problematic catchphrases that sensationalize the letter (and that I take issue with):
the good things of a community
unique character
fragile inner-city neighborhood
unique character
healthy for a neighborhood

The only quantitative statement that I saw in the article is that, a multi-family unit replacing a single family property does in fact increase density.

Building a two-story duplex isn't an option when land prices are what they are in that location, thus the author, in his attempt in a call to arms, goes in a roundabout way to stops any multi-family developments in Linden Hills.

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Re: Southwest - General Topics (Linden Hills, Fulton, et al)

Postby VacantLuxuries » January 25th, 2018, 3:47 pm

Just because you genuinely believe something doesn't mean you're right. And in some cases, it doesn't mean you're opinion should be allowed to hold weight over more informed opinions.

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Re: Southwest - General Topics (Linden Hills, Fulton, et al)

Postby Bob Stinson's Ghost » January 25th, 2018, 3:48 pm

Schwinn- what would you say to this guy if you were talking to him face to face? Would you use persuasive arguments to reveal to him a win-win which hasn't yet seen? Or would you call him a rich entitled old hoarder and tell him it's time to share, whether he wants to or not?

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Re: Southwest - General Topics (Linden Hills, Fulton, et al)

Postby schwinnletour » January 25th, 2018, 4:28 pm

Hey Bob, I really don't like when people make negative blanket statements towards people of means. Everybody is different and should be given a chance on whether or not they are a decent person. Both people of means and little means can be jerks.

I don't consider myself an exclusionary person but I do live in a SW Minneapolis neighborhood, in a single family home, surrounded by other single family homes. An independent restaurant with tasty food and fair prices just close down a short walk from my house and I think if developers were building some density around Lyndale and 54th as opposed to single story Walgreens and Title Boxing Gyms with large surface lots, maybe there would be enough density and foot traffic for that amenity to survive.

I personally took offence at the way the author's opinion was stated in the letter. It's exclusionary, devoid of factual statements, but is typical of the majority of the vocal sexagenarian SW Minneapolis homeowners in SW Journal.

Would I let him know that he'd be a lot safer walking his shih tzu late at night on sidewalks with other people walking around (due to the increase in density)? Would I inform him that he's blessed to live in a cool neighborhood and he should consider it a good thing that new housing is being added so more people can enjoy what it has to offer?


Do I think he'd listen?


And this is because of my disappointing life experience of hearing anti-biker rhetoric from people of a certain age at Ped/Bike safety listening sessions put on by my Counsel Member and at Lynnhurst Neighborhood Association Crime and Safety meetings. They both has a very similar tone of egocentricity.

I want more for Minneapolis after visiting other cities and knowing what they could if a vocal minority would step out of the way.

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Southwest - General Topics (Linden Hills, Fulton, et al)

Postby Anondson » February 22nd, 2018, 8:19 pm

Missing Middle coming to 50th and France on Minneapolis side.

I was tempted to put this in the 50th and France thread in the Suburbs forum... but the owner of Arezzo Ristorante wants to demolish three single family homes behind his restaurant (at the corner of 51st and Ewing) and build 16 luxury apartments. ... 474890273/

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Re: Southwest - General Topics (Linden Hills, Fulton, et al)

Postby MNdible » February 23rd, 2018, 11:22 am

Pretty sure we did discuss this in a different thread.

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