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Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 15th, 2016, 1:55 pm
by HiawathaGuy
Am I reading correctly that they're only proposing 23 underground parking stalls dedicated to Target? Obviously, a lot of people in the immediate vicinity can walk, but I'm still surprised that they would sign on with that few spots.
Seems pretty accurate. Dinkytown and Highland both only have 40 spaces each. I would think Uptown, with several surrounding parking lots, doesn't need more than 23 immediately beneath it. Have you been to either? They are like a Walgreens or a CVS. These are very different than a traditional Target!

Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 15th, 2016, 1:58 pm
by FISHMANPET
Dinkytown Target is so small they don't even have separate entrance and exit doors, only a single door into the building.

Seriously guys, check out the Dinkytown Target if you can, it's pretty amazing.

Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 15th, 2016, 2:06 pm
by seanrichardryan
Highland Target has spots open all the time, hardly the car trip generator of the larger format stores.

Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 15th, 2016, 2:33 pm
by sanguinic
Agreed with Fishmanpet: The Dinkytown Target is terrific, and there's always (free) parking in the adjacent, easy-to-access ramp. The store is larger than the Highland store, and therefore has a wider, more user-friendly inventory. And I've never been there when it hasn't been busy, another great sign.

Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 15th, 2016, 2:38 pm
by xandrex
Yeah, the Dinkytown Target has surprisingly few used spots. The parking lot is rarely more than half full.

Excited for this to come to Uptown.

Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 15th, 2016, 3:45 pm
by Wedgeguy
I'm happy, I get a Target within walking distance and an Aldi's 3 blocks away to the north. The Wedge is looking nicer and nicer as a place to live without a car.

Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 15th, 2016, 5:22 pm
by Rube Dali
It's odd that Target is sticking to the small store format, when Walmart is getting out of it. The Bentonville Boys are closing all of their Walmart Express stores by the end of the month, as part of their first mass closing in company history(269 stores in all both in the U.S. and Internationally, mainly Brazil).

Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 15th, 2016, 5:28 pm
by Anondson
I dunno if it's odd. Sometimes a lot comes down to a team's ability to execute as well as a company's willingness to. Walmart's distribution may not be tuned for inner city, hyper specialized inventories. Nor worth it to them to do it.

Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 15th, 2016, 5:41 pm
by MNdible
Sounds like the Walmart Express stores were about an average of 12,000 sf, so about half the size of these Target stores.

I've been to the Dinkytown store a few times. It's nice enough, and obviously has got a captive audience with the student population. But it sort of struck me as a glorified CVS.

Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 15th, 2016, 5:50 pm
by grant1simons2
I think CVS is actually a not as nice Target Express. In fact Walgreens is just a half glorified Target Express.

They're all in the same playing field, that's why they feel similar.

Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 15th, 2016, 6:00 pm
by Wedgeguy
I think that Target Express is more specialized that the two Druggies. They have a special electronics department that I've never seen at CVS or Walgreen's. More focused on food than those 2, and still they have what you would expect from most general Target departments outside of housewares, clothes, and seasonal departments.

I know little about the Walmart Express, but I doubt that they specialized like Target does. They were probably a glorified convenience store and not a real place you felt you could go for much of your everyday shopping. Why the one at the U is doing so well, it has what the students in the area want and need in their everyday lives.

The biggest part is for Target Corp to grow they have to hit the urban areas. The burbs are full and the county seat mentality of Walmart has already taken hold in many of the smaller markets. New Ulm would be an example of that. Where the smaller communities are looking for the most bang from their buck and not the most trendy. Why Walmart wins in the more rural areas of the country. Where are your greatest concentrations of customers, but in the larger cities that have not be really tapped yet. I think urbabsn folks are more Target friendly than Walmart friendly.

Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 15th, 2016, 6:04 pm
by FISHMANPET
The biggest impression I get from the Dinkytown Target is that Target looked at the local marked and figured out what it needed, rather than just doing a cookie-cutter mini big box concept that they could clone into hundreds of urban locations. So as long as they keep up that dedication to looking at the local market and serving it directly, I think they should continue to be successful.

Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 15th, 2016, 6:23 pm
by grant1simons2
There's going to be a ton of alcohol and sports stuff at the Uptown Target Express. So similar to Dinkytown.

Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 15th, 2016, 7:03 pm
by minneboom
It would be great to see Target put this kind of care into the store at Minnehaha and Lake. I know it is a difficult landlord, but I am sure Target could pressure them to redevelop the land.

Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 15th, 2016, 9:01 pm
by grant1simons2
Weird. Rendering has a "<3 CVS Pharmacy"

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Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 15th, 2016, 9:09 pm
by seanrichardryan
CVS bought Target's pharmacy operations back in December.

Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 15th, 2016, 9:17 pm
by grant1simons2
I figured it might of been something like that. Thanks!

Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 15th, 2016, 10:42 pm
by kiliff75
Possibly with a starbucks in there too? Kind of looks like a starbucks logo in the window to the lower left of the CVS logo...

Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 16th, 2016, 12:29 am
by David Greene
Possibly with a starbucks in there too? Kind of looks like a starbucks logo in the window to the lower left of the CVS logo...
That would be incredibly dangerous for my wife.

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Re: Lake & Fremont Apartments (Cheapo site) - 1300 West Lake

Posted: January 16th, 2016, 4:21 am
by buzz
Target has put Starbucks coffee shops in most new and remodeled stores since early 2000's.