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Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: June 11th, 2015, 10:15 pm
by aeisenberg
But I can see that if you were on the wrong end of the stick, it might look to you as if the city really was out to get you. But believing it doesn't really make it so. Hanlon's razor and all.
A Hanlon's Razor reference, just when I thought I couldn't love Peter any more than I already do.

Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: June 11th, 2015, 10:17 pm
by aeisenberg
Thoughts:

Probably nobody wants to live next to a public works facility, but they have to go somewhere and this location (next to the highway and the existing public works facility and centrally located) seems to make good sense.
What about the being right by the Blue Line, Greenway / Sabo Bridge, and tons of retail?

Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: June 11th, 2015, 11:05 pm
by woofner
http://tamalesybicicletas.weebly.com/re ... -yard.html

The second graphic was posted in the Facebook group, and while a little inflammatory (radioactive waste barrel? really?), is nowhere near as accusatory as the first one. In general that site to me takes a pretty negative view of the city and it's actions.
Well you have to give them credit for apparently using Microsoft Word to make the whole clip art epic. They probably have no idea that the Northeast that they depict as being blessed by the beneficence of the city recently made the same accusations when the city tried to locate a waste transfer station there. And of course the land uses the activists want would also have most of the same negative side effects shown in the second graphic.

But they seem to be saying that the city is being apathetic towards them more than actively antipathic. And the first graphic is accurate in that the city is clearly choosing this site for its own convenience. It really doesn't make sense from a land use perspective to have this large, low-intensity use in the middle of a bunch of dense residential land, right next to a highway, a light rail line, and a major bike path.

Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: June 11th, 2015, 11:53 pm
by David Greene
^ To me, this parallels exactly what is going on with the impound lot. It's convenient for the city to leave it there so that's what's happening, even though there will be an LRT station literally right next to it and there's a major bike path running next to the LRT station.

Injustice is drawn sometimes from deliberate action but usually from apathy and laziness.

Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: June 16th, 2015, 7:16 am
by Chava
Injustice is drawn sometimes from deliberate action but usually from apathy and laziness.
Bingo.
Also, http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/ ... ice-occurs

Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: August 19th, 2015, 2:35 pm
by MNdible
Apparently a plant where they made asphalt shingles might be polluted. So, deal's off.

Cano is hosting a celebration. Y'all should check it out.

Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: August 19th, 2015, 3:00 pm
by seanrichardryan
She should have her party inside the asphalt plant. Few card tables, streamers, little balloons of benzene to take home. Fabulous.

Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: August 19th, 2015, 3:16 pm
by FISHMANPET
Relevant, because the asphalt plant was never on the table.

Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: August 19th, 2015, 3:40 pm
by talindsay
the impound lot [...]there will be an LRT station literally right next to it
Actually, having an LRT station right next to the impound lot makes a lot of sense given when and why cars end up there most.

Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: February 20th, 2016, 7:17 pm
by minneboom
Something to keep an eye on. It appears that Minneapolis was finally able to purchase to Roof Depot site, however they will not need this entire site for their operations. This would be a really great opportunity for some development that fronts the greenway and helps build out the north side of the Corcoran revival plan. A few ideas are suggested in the article, such as a bike shop or brewery. This would be an excellent place for any of those amenities and it would certainly complement the other businesses at down the greenway at the Midtown Global Market.

http://www.startribune.com/minneapolis- ... 369494732/

Corcoran Revival Plan
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Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: February 22nd, 2016, 9:40 am
by HiawathaGuy
Just want to point out that the Roof Depot site is not even featured on that map. For anyone who isn't familiar with this area of the city, the Depot site is located between 26th & 28th, west of Hiawatha and east of Cedar.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Roof+ ... 01!6m1!1e1

Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: February 22nd, 2016, 10:14 am
by FISHMANPET
Also the Corcoran revival plan is only for Corcoran, this is north in oner of the Phillips.

Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: February 22nd, 2016, 10:10 pm
by minneboom
Yes, good points. The site probably shows up best in the Hiawatha/Lake Station Area Master Plan. In this study, the preferred concept plan has the site labeled as #7 North Phillips Industrial, with a light orange underlay. Below are the changes that the study proposes for the site. In addition to the other propositions (brewery, bike-shop, ect) many of these ideas still seem relevant, especially relocating the police station from Lake Street and selective residential infill along Longfellow Avenue.

7. North Phillips Industrial
The demonstration plan indicates comprehensive redevelopment of this area. Land use proposals include: reconstruction / expansion of the existing Public Works yard; new light industrial and office commercial uses north of 28th Street; a new animal shelter facility;police station (relocated from Lake Street); environmental remediation of vacant industrial lands and new open space adjacent to Hiawatha Avenue; and selective residential infill along the east side of Longfellow Avenue.

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Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: February 26th, 2016, 6:54 pm
by minneboom
More news about the roof depot site. It looks like they rejected an option to allow any private use of the site. What about a site for a new Minneapolis Curling Club.... It would be great to see the city do something special with this site. For those unfamiliar with the site, I posted a view from the greenway.

http://m.startribune.com/minneapolis-ap ... 370302021/

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Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: February 26th, 2016, 7:18 pm
by gobezlij
That's actually Smith Foundry, which is still in operation, to many neighbors' dismay. The Roof Depot site is just across 28th St from here.

Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: February 26th, 2016, 7:38 pm
by minneboom
That's actually Smith Foundry, which is still in operation, to many neighbors' dismay. The Roof Depot site is just across 28th St from here.
Yes, it is in the background of the previous image. Here is the part of the building that fronts the bike trail. As you can see, it really does have amazing potential with its location to the Midtown Greenway and Lake St Station.

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Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: February 26th, 2016, 10:14 pm
by FISHMANPET
If my interpretation of the meeting today is correct, they didn't reject any option for private use, they specifically didn't want to dictate a future use and let ways and means and staff figure out if there's any more use the city could get out of the site before offering it to be developed.

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Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: August 15th, 2017, 8:49 pm
by minneboom
Update on the roof depot site.

http://alleynews.org/2017/08/searsroof- ... ter-works/

Check out the City of Minneapolis website for recent presentations. They are calling it the Hiawatha Campus Expansion Project.

http://www.minneapolismn.gov/publicwork ... sExpansion

Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: August 16th, 2017, 8:40 am
by MNdible
Whenever I'm having a bad day, I should just remind myself that I could be one of the city staffers working on this project.

Re: Roof Depot site

Posted: November 29th, 2017, 5:27 pm
by MNdible
Apparently, the neighborhood has come forward with their plan for the remainder of the Roof Depot site.
A coalition of residents in Minneapolis' East Phillips neighborhood wants to turn city land close to the Midtown Greenway into aquaponics farms, affordable housing and a neighborhood-run bike shop and cafe.
Sounds like a financial plan that's sure to pencil out.