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Re: Hi-Lake - Minnehaha Mall (Target/Cub) - Downtown Longfellow

Posted: May 23rd, 2019, 6:09 am
by Mooglemuffins
dillonfried wrote:
May 12th, 2019, 6:00 am
Same here, I have mixed feelings on this one. Almost anything is better than what's there now. Adding the tree islands to the parking lot will make it a little less hostile to life. However, since no structured parking is being included with the building it limits any future development of the lot.

Also - really hoping this catalyzes pressure for Target (and the trust group that owns the land) to release some of unused parking across the street for development. Hundreds of those spaces haven't had a car park in them for years if ever!
I feel like I remember hearing in some community meeting a year or two ago that there were plans at some point to put some more of those 1+5 buildings with retail on the first floor, housing up above around the edges of that big empty Target parking lot as well once all the stuff over here by the ALDI was done. Basically putting stuff right up to the sidewalks all the way around that big empty parking space.

If I recall, the parking lots encompassing Cub, Target, and the ALDI are the largest empty chunk of concrete in the city aside from the impound lot, so it's definitely sorely needed.

Re: Hi-Lake - Minnehaha Mall (Target/Cub) - Downtown Longfellow

Posted: June 17th, 2019, 6:41 pm
by Mooglemuffins
Anyone else see this article from the Trib about the Town Talk Diner?

http://www.startribune.com/minneapolis- ... sx9NywnK50

Sounds like they've been having trouble getting the neighborhood to come to their restaurant and they only ever seem to get out-of-towners. From the article and from going over and reading the Nextdoor thread seems like a lot of people thought they were closed. Myself included tbh. Hell, I've lived like three blocks away for four years and I thought the place was closed.

Re: Hi-Lake - Minnehaha Mall (Target/Cub) - Downtown Longfellow

Posted: June 18th, 2019, 7:50 am
by QuietBlue
Well, one step that seems really obvious would be to put a menu on their website. I know, farm to fork/changing menu and all that, but similar places manage to do it, so they should too.

Kind of sucks that they're stuck with the "Diner" part of the name due to the sign -- I thought they were a modernized diner before I found out more about them.

Re: Hi-Lake - Minnehaha Mall (Target/Cub) - Downtown Longfellow

Posted: June 18th, 2019, 3:53 pm
by talindsay
We went into that location many years ago in an iteration where it was a martini bar, I think. It was unremarkable. It never crossed my mind to try it again. I might give it a try - especially since some strib commenter told them to take foie gras off the menu, sounds like it must be pretty good - but I would like to see at least a sample menu online before committing a night's dining experience to it.

Re: Hi-Lake - Minnehaha Mall (Target/Cub) - Downtown Longfellow

Posted: June 19th, 2019, 8:31 am
by hiawather
Mooglemuffins wrote:
June 17th, 2019, 6:41 pm
Anyone else see this article from the Trib about the Town Talk Diner?

http://www.startribune.com/minneapolis- ... sx9NywnK50

Sounds like they've been having trouble getting the neighborhood to come to their restaurant and they only ever seem to get out-of-towners. From the article and from going over and reading the Nextdoor thread seems like a lot of people thought they were closed. Myself included tbh. Hell, I've lived like three blocks away for four years and I thought the place was closed.
This is why I haven't gone. I didn't know if they were open, I don't know what their format is now (i.e.: they have no identity), there is a revolving door of ownership so why go and start to like a place that will be something else in a few months? I do feel bad for the current owners...I just didn't know about them or the current business.

Re: Hi-Lake - Minnehaha Mall (Target/Cub) - Downtown Longfellow

Posted: June 19th, 2019, 8:36 am
by hiawather
QuietBlue wrote:
June 18th, 2019, 7:50 am
Well, one step that seems really obvious would be to put a menu on their website. I know, farm to fork/changing menu and all that, but similar places manage to do it, so they should too.

Kind of sucks that they're stuck with the "Diner" part of the name due to the sign -- I thought they were a modernized diner before I found out more about them.
They seem to imply that because they are farm to fork/have a changing menu that is a reason NOT to put their menu online. I would argue exactly the opposite: that is specifically a reason TO put your menu online. Updating a menu with daily changes should be a quick and easy task and you want to get anything special out to the general public while it's still hot, so to speak. In some ways the mindset of the current owners seems a bit locked or in a rut and they've convinced themselves of things that are the opposite of the truth. I wish them well and will probably go check them out soon (now that I know they exist) but they need to quit shooting their own feet. A frequently updated web presence is probably the quickest and best way of community outreach.

Re: Hi-Lake - Minnehaha Mall (Target/Cub) - Downtown Longfellow

Posted: June 19th, 2019, 8:39 am
by mattaudio
Yeah it's one of those things where everyone knows it's there but nobody knows what it is. I think the high-end concepts did a lot of damage because they created a mismatch between the sign, the history, etc and the concept. I've never considered it since. Either that sign has to go or the concept has to go. Their website says "farm to fork" and "gastropub" but the sign says "greasy spoon." But the sign is amazing, so I hope the concept changes to match the sign.

Re: Hi-Lake - Minnehaha Mall (Target/Cub) - Downtown Longfellow

Posted: June 19th, 2019, 9:48 am
by QuietBlue
It's also not an area where I would expect a high-end restaurant to do well (there are a number of good restaurants in the area, just not what I would consider fancy ones). I think they would have been better off leaning into the diner concept, personally.

Re: Hi-Lake - Minnehaha Mall (Target/Cub) - Downtown Longfellow

Posted: June 27th, 2019, 1:06 pm
by Mooglemuffins
QuietBlue wrote:
June 19th, 2019, 9:48 am
It's also not an area where I would expect a high-end restaurant to do well (there are a number of good restaurants in the area, just not what I would consider fancy ones). I think they would have been better off leaning into the diner concept, personally.
Yeah, two doors down from a payday loan place definitely doesn't strike me as where I'd find a high end restaurant.

Re: Hi-Lake - Minnehaha Mall (Target/Cub) - Downtown Longfellow

Posted: June 28th, 2019, 7:58 am
by QuietBlue
They have menus (or example menus, technically) on their website now, so it's encouraging that they are listening to feedback.

Re: Hi-Lake - Minnehaha Mall (Target/Cub) - Downtown Longfellow

Posted: June 28th, 2019, 2:45 pm
by grandpastyle
Denny's has permanently closed a sign on the door said today

Re: Hi-Lake - Minnehaha Mall (Target/Cub) - Downtown Longfellow

Posted: June 28th, 2019, 11:58 pm
by Mooglemuffins
grandpastyle wrote:
June 28th, 2019, 2:45 pm
Denny's has permanently closed a sign on the door said today
Oh? Hopefully whatever takes its place still has breakfast stuff. Like a local breakfast joint or one the slightly better version of Denny's like a Baker's Square/Perkins or something

Re: Hi-Lake - Minnehaha Mall (Target/Cub) - Downtown Longfellow

Posted: June 29th, 2019, 9:03 am
by Didier
Maybe an Embers?

Re: Hi-Lake - Minnehaha Mall (Target/Cub) - Downtown Longfellow

Posted: July 1st, 2019, 7:50 am
by SurlyLHT
Black Coffee and Waffle?

Re: Hi-Lake - Minnehaha Mall (Target/Cub) - Downtown Longfellow

Posted: July 1st, 2019, 8:28 am
by mattaudio
Maybe a... Diner that will be the Talk of the Town?