Saint Paul - General Topics

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby EOst » March 24th, 2017, 6:42 am

Is the queueing happening at morning rush only, or evening too? Went through last night around 6 and it was pretty empty, but still a nightmare to get through (partner with me said she never wants to do that drive-thru again).

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby Didier » March 24th, 2017, 7:35 am

When I've been there a couple times around lunch the queue has always been to the end of the parking lot but never actually in the street. I go by here every morning but never thought to look until this morning. I figure Friday might be a busier than usual day to buy a morning coffee though.

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby schmitzm03 » March 30th, 2017, 6:46 am

sanchopanza wrote:
February 24th, 2017, 8:30 pm
seanrichardryan wrote:
April 27th, 2016, 11:43 am
The old mid-century Woolworth's building at 428 Minnesota is finally going to get some love.

http://www.twincities.com/2016/04/27/st ... -makeover/

Interesting to note, it was STILL leased. Wahh?
Woolworth’s long-term land lease expired last year, giving the building owner the full go-ahead to move in an entirely new direction. By next summer, it plans to have the site ready for office tenants--
Image

I don't get into downtown St Paul often, is this project moving forward?
I work in the Golden Rule Building (directly adjacent to this project) and can confirm this is definitely under way. There is a large dumpster outside, the windows are now covered, construction entrance signage, and there is a posted rendering of the project with a completion date listed (I think sometime in 2018, but can't recall precisely).

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby matthew5080 » April 6th, 2017, 7:43 pm

The City Council approved plans to turn the former Pioneer Press office building into apartments.

http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/n ... press.html

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby lorwest » April 7th, 2017, 6:01 am

schmitzm03 wrote:
March 30th, 2017, 6:46 am
sanchopanza wrote:
February 24th, 2017, 8:30 pm
seanrichardryan wrote:
April 27th, 2016, 11:43 am
The old mid-century Woolworth's building at 428 Minnesota is finally going to get some love.

http://www.twincities.com/2016/04/27/st ... -makeover/

Interesting to note, it was STILL leased. Wahh?

Image

I don't get into downtown St Paul often, is this project moving forward?
I work in the Golden Rule Building (directly adjacent to this project) and can confirm this is definitely under way. There is a large dumpster outside, the windows are now covered, construction entrance signage, and there is a posted rendering of the project with a completion date listed (I think sometime in 2018, but can't recall precisely).
Also work in Golden Rule and the images on site are different than posted above. See this page:

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/17299488 ... t-Paul-MN/

Seems to show 4 stories plus the enclosed roof area. The leasing brochure attached has the 3-story version, so not sure what's happening here.

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby mattaudio » April 11th, 2017, 8:06 am

Got an idea to remake St. Paul's police building? Make sure it's not housing
http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/n ... lding.html
Per an announcement from the St. Paul Planning and Economic Development department, "Proposals to demolish the building or to repurpose it for housing will not be considered.”

Mayor Chris Coleman elaborated on that in a statement, noting that the city's downtown has seen "tremendous growth in housing and entertainment options … but now is the time to focus on accelerating job growth."
This is more reason why I'd refuse to support Coleman for governor. He has such an outdated way of thinking. With all due respect, St. Paul, you need whatever you can get to start filling up your vacant lots and surface parking. Your downtown needs to deal with the blocks of missing teeth before worrying about what type of land use you want and where. And if you grow your downtown population by 20,000-30,000 then maybe more businesses would be interested in Downtown.

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby EOst » April 12th, 2017, 1:11 am

Phoenix Development is looking to purchase 782-804 Rice Street from the HRA to build "a new 4 story-41 unit apartment building w/ 58 parking spaces."

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby at40man » April 12th, 2017, 8:24 am

mattaudio wrote:
April 11th, 2017, 8:06 am
Got an idea to remake St. Paul's police building? Make sure it's not housing
http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/n ... lding.html
Per an announcement from the St. Paul Planning and Economic Development department, "Proposals to demolish the building or to repurpose it for housing will not be considered.”

Mayor Chris Coleman elaborated on that in a statement, noting that the city's downtown has seen "tremendous growth in housing and entertainment options … but now is the time to focus on accelerating job growth."
This is more reason why I'd refuse to support Coleman for governor. He has such an outdated way of thinking. With all due respect, St. Paul, you need whatever you can get to start filling up your vacant lots and surface parking. Your downtown needs to deal with the blocks of missing teeth before worrying about what type of land use you want and where. And if you grow your downtown population by 20,000-30,000 then maybe more businesses would be interested in Downtown.
I personally say let the quasi free-market choose what goes into that building.

However, from what I understand according to multiple sources, is that businesses ARE interested in downtown St. Paul, but there isn't enough contiguous office space for them. Hence the conversion of the old Woolworth store into office space.

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby mattaudio » April 12th, 2017, 8:52 am

Contiguous in terms of SF per floor plate? Or contiguous in terms of SF across an entire building? With the old Ecolab buildings and the Cray space in Galtier vacated, it seems like there's plenty of large office spaces available. This location is not as prime as either of those locations, and seems like it would be a prime residential conversion next to Pedro Park and across from Lunds.

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby Vagueperson » April 13th, 2017, 5:10 am

EOst wrote:
April 12th, 2017, 1:11 am
Phoenix Development is looking to purchase 782-804 Rice Street from the HRA to build "a new 4 story-41 unit apartment building w/ 58 parking spaces."
That's awesome, and seems a bit bold given the (current) surrounding land use. There's an effort to get bike lanes on Rice Street with a 4-3 conversion. I wonder what this company would think of that.

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby Vagueperson » April 13th, 2017, 5:12 am

mattaudio wrote:
April 12th, 2017, 8:52 am
Contiguous in terms of SF per floor plate? Or contiguous in terms of SF across an entire building? With the old Ecolab buildings and the Cray space in Galtier vacated, it seems like there's plenty of large office spaces available. This location is not as prime as either of those locations, and seems like it would be a prime residential conversion next to Pedro Park and across from Lunds.
Isn't this part of why Cray left? Lack of contiguous office space at the highest level?

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby lordmoke » April 17th, 2017, 2:18 pm

10 story hotel (new construction!) proposed for 9th and Jackson in downtown: http://www.capitolrivercouncil.org/wp-c ... ackson.pdf

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby EOst » April 17th, 2017, 2:55 pm

I know beggers & choosers etc., but there's a serious lack of doors on that ground level.

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby David Greene » April 17th, 2017, 8:14 pm

Vagueperson wrote:
April 13th, 2017, 5:12 am
Isn't this part of why Cray left? Lack of contiguous office space at the highest level?
That's the official word. There was also the small matter of it raining in the office rather regularly. And the flood that took out the machine room. And the fact that the Green Line was entirely constructed from scratch before the elevators taken out by said flood were fully operational.

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby Tiller » April 20th, 2017, 11:56 am

I just noticed the CP Market in Phalen Village is gone - - demolished. Does anyone know what's going on at that site? (and further, where online can I check to see permits issued, or something like that, for St Paul?)

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby Vagueperson » April 21st, 2017, 5:57 am

According to the Ramsey County Interactive Property Map it is owned by the St. Paul HRA. https://www.ramseycounty.us/residents/p ... ve-map-gis

You can look up permits here:
https://online.stpaul.gov/web/portal/pu ... reset=true

It could be part of the long-range plan described here: http://www.lillienews.com/articles/2015 ... en-village


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