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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: March 24th, 2017, 6:42 am
by EOst
Is the queueing happening at morning rush only, or evening too? Went through last night around 6 and it was pretty empty, but still a nightmare to get through (partner with me said she never wants to do that drive-thru again).

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: March 24th, 2017, 7:35 am
by Didier
When I've been there a couple times around lunch the queue has always been to the end of the parking lot but never actually in the street. I go by here every morning but never thought to look until this morning. I figure Friday might be a busier than usual day to buy a morning coffee though.

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: March 30th, 2017, 6:46 am
by schmitzm03
The old mid-century Woolworth's building at 428 Minnesota is finally going to get some love.

http://www.twincities.com/2016/04/27/st ... -makeover/

Interesting to note, it was STILL leased. Wahh?
Woolworth’s long-term land lease expired last year, giving the building owner the full go-ahead to move in an entirely new direction. By next summer, it plans to have the site ready for office tenants--
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I don't get into downtown St Paul often, is this project moving forward?
I work in the Golden Rule Building (directly adjacent to this project) and can confirm this is definitely under way. There is a large dumpster outside, the windows are now covered, construction entrance signage, and there is a posted rendering of the project with a completion date listed (I think sometime in 2018, but can't recall precisely).

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: April 6th, 2017, 7:43 pm
by matthew5080
The City Council approved plans to turn the former Pioneer Press office building into apartments.

http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/n ... press.html

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: April 7th, 2017, 6:01 am
by lorwest
The old mid-century Woolworth's building at 428 Minnesota is finally going to get some love.

http://www.twincities.com/2016/04/27/st ... -makeover/

Interesting to note, it was STILL leased. Wahh?

Image

I don't get into downtown St Paul often, is this project moving forward?
I work in the Golden Rule Building (directly adjacent to this project) and can confirm this is definitely under way. There is a large dumpster outside, the windows are now covered, construction entrance signage, and there is a posted rendering of the project with a completion date listed (I think sometime in 2018, but can't recall precisely).
Also work in Golden Rule and the images on site are different than posted above. See this page:

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/17299488 ... t-Paul-MN/

Seems to show 4 stories plus the enclosed roof area. The leasing brochure attached has the 3-story version, so not sure what's happening here.

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: April 11th, 2017, 8:06 am
by mattaudio
Got an idea to remake St. Paul's police building? Make sure it's not housing
http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/n ... lding.html
Per an announcement from the St. Paul Planning and Economic Development department, "Proposals to demolish the building or to repurpose it for housing will not be considered.”

Mayor Chris Coleman elaborated on that in a statement, noting that the city's downtown has seen "tremendous growth in housing and entertainment options … but now is the time to focus on accelerating job growth."
This is more reason why I'd refuse to support Coleman for governor. He has such an outdated way of thinking. With all due respect, St. Paul, you need whatever you can get to start filling up your vacant lots and surface parking. Your downtown needs to deal with the blocks of missing teeth before worrying about what type of land use you want and where. And if you grow your downtown population by 20,000-30,000 then maybe more businesses would be interested in Downtown.

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: April 12th, 2017, 1:11 am
by EOst
Phoenix Development is looking to purchase 782-804 Rice Street from the HRA to build "a new 4 story-41 unit apartment building w/ 58 parking spaces."

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: April 12th, 2017, 8:24 am
by at40man
Got an idea to remake St. Paul's police building? Make sure it's not housing
http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/n ... lding.html
Per an announcement from the St. Paul Planning and Economic Development department, "Proposals to demolish the building or to repurpose it for housing will not be considered.”

Mayor Chris Coleman elaborated on that in a statement, noting that the city's downtown has seen "tremendous growth in housing and entertainment options … but now is the time to focus on accelerating job growth."
This is more reason why I'd refuse to support Coleman for governor. He has such an outdated way of thinking. With all due respect, St. Paul, you need whatever you can get to start filling up your vacant lots and surface parking. Your downtown needs to deal with the blocks of missing teeth before worrying about what type of land use you want and where. And if you grow your downtown population by 20,000-30,000 then maybe more businesses would be interested in Downtown.
I personally say let the quasi free-market choose what goes into that building.

However, from what I understand according to multiple sources, is that businesses ARE interested in downtown St. Paul, but there isn't enough contiguous office space for them. Hence the conversion of the old Woolworth store into office space.

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: April 12th, 2017, 8:52 am
by mattaudio
Contiguous in terms of SF per floor plate? Or contiguous in terms of SF across an entire building? With the old Ecolab buildings and the Cray space in Galtier vacated, it seems like there's plenty of large office spaces available. This location is not as prime as either of those locations, and seems like it would be a prime residential conversion next to Pedro Park and across from Lunds.

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: April 13th, 2017, 5:10 am
by Vagueperson
Phoenix Development is looking to purchase 782-804 Rice Street from the HRA to build "a new 4 story-41 unit apartment building w/ 58 parking spaces."
That's awesome, and seems a bit bold given the (current) surrounding land use. There's an effort to get bike lanes on Rice Street with a 4-3 conversion. I wonder what this company would think of that.

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: April 13th, 2017, 5:12 am
by Vagueperson
Contiguous in terms of SF per floor plate? Or contiguous in terms of SF across an entire building? With the old Ecolab buildings and the Cray space in Galtier vacated, it seems like there's plenty of large office spaces available. This location is not as prime as either of those locations, and seems like it would be a prime residential conversion next to Pedro Park and across from Lunds.
Isn't this part of why Cray left? Lack of contiguous office space at the highest level?

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: April 17th, 2017, 2:18 pm
by lordmoke
10 story hotel (new construction!) proposed for 9th and Jackson in downtown: http://www.capitolrivercouncil.org/wp-c ... ackson.pdf

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: April 17th, 2017, 2:55 pm
by EOst
I know beggers & choosers etc., but there's a serious lack of doors on that ground level.

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: April 17th, 2017, 8:14 pm
by David Greene
Isn't this part of why Cray left? Lack of contiguous office space at the highest level?
That's the official word. There was also the small matter of it raining in the office rather regularly. And the flood that took out the machine room. And the fact that the Green Line was entirely constructed from scratch before the elevators taken out by said flood were fully operational.

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: April 20th, 2017, 11:56 am
by Tiller
I just noticed the CP Market in Phalen Village is gone - - demolished. Does anyone know what's going on at that site? (and further, where online can I check to see permits issued, or something like that, for St Paul?)

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: April 21st, 2017, 5:57 am
by Vagueperson
According to the Ramsey County Interactive Property Map it is owned by the St. Paul HRA. https://www.ramseycounty.us/residents/p ... ve-map-gis

You can look up permits here:
https://online.stpaul.gov/web/portal/pu ... reset=true

It could be part of the long-range plan described here: http://www.lillienews.com/articles/2015 ... en-village

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: May 4th, 2017, 10:25 pm
by EOst
http://www.twincities.com/2017/05/04/st ... ink-bikes/

What happened has zero to do with bikes, but it's a narrative that sells.

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: May 5th, 2017, 9:36 am
by bubzki2
New At Home HQ on Grand:

http://www.startribune.com/hot-property ... 421364943/

These three houses really stand out at present (very poorly maintained) so this is a big improvement for the neighborhood.

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: May 5th, 2017, 10:56 am
by MNdible
What happened has zero to do with bikes, but it's a narrative that sells.
In case it's not obvious to others, you should probably note that the article is about you...

Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Posted: May 5th, 2017, 11:31 am
by EOst
Wouldn't say it's about me, but I am involved in it.