Saint Paul - General Topics

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby Rube Dali » May 3rd, 2019, 3:58 pm

EOst wrote:
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Speaking of jersey barriers, NE corner of Rice and Como has them surrounding the old Stahl lanes footprint. Anyone have info on what's going up?
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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby mulad » May 7th, 2019, 9:48 am

This is an interesting 5-story Flatiron-esque building at 631 Transfer Rd, near University Ave, but from the F&C article I found, it looks like it's just a self-storage place (I don't have a subscription at the moment to fully verify, though). It's wedge-shaped due to an alley that comes up at an angle, nearly all the way to the intersection:

https://finance-commerce.com/2018/02/ju ... f-storage/

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby mulad » May 7th, 2019, 10:07 am

Happened across 1554 Grand Ave yesterday, where a house was recently torn down to make way for a 4-story building with furnished apartments (it's less than a block from Macalester College). Apparently they'll be 4-bedroom/2-bath units.

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Here's a link for streetview of the old house from 2013 (which I suspect may have already been divided into apartments), just since that date seems to give the best view:

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.940062, ... 312!8i6656

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby seanrichardryan » May 7th, 2019, 11:38 am

mulad wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 9:48 am
This is an interesting 5-story Flatiron-esque building at 631 Transfer Rd, near University Ave, but from the F&C article I found, it looks like it's just a self-storage place (I don't have a subscription at the moment to fully verify, though). It's wedge-shaped due to an alley that comes up at an angle, nearly all the way to the intersection:

https://finance-commerce.com/2018/02/ju ... f-storage/
I was glad to see that the lot lines still would allow a connection of Territorial in the furture through the Dry Ice parking lot.
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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby MNdible » May 7th, 2019, 1:51 pm

Do you mean Charles Avenue, not Territorial?

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby MNdible » May 7th, 2019, 1:53 pm

Speaking of St. Paul missed connections, does anybody have any insight as to what it would take to properly connect SE 5th Street next to Surly?

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby EOst » May 7th, 2019, 2:47 pm

MNdible wrote:
May 7th, 2019, 1:53 pm
Speaking of St. Paul missed connections, does anybody have any insight as to what it would take to properly connect SE 5th Street next to Surly?
Saint Paul vacated the ROW of 5th/Territorial when the Pavillion on Berry was built.

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby seanrichardryan » May 7th, 2019, 8:09 pm

Ah yes, Charles Ave. The Pavilion on Berry is a menace.
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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby MNdible » May 8th, 2019, 8:38 am

I was actually talking about 5th Street, directly in front of Surly, not 4th and Territorial. But that's also terrible!

How did St. Paul make so many bad decisions in this area? And are they not interested in fixing them, because it would primarily benefit Minneapolis?

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby xandrex » May 9th, 2019, 8:30 am

Do you mean by officially connecting 5th to Westgate?

If so, is that even necessary? Would it provide a connection more meaningful than the (probably only quasi-public) one that exists?

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby MNdible » May 9th, 2019, 9:38 am

Yes, that's what I was talking about.

Is it necessary? No, they're managing without it.

But having a functional grid is a good thing. As it currently stands, there's no (legal) way to drive between Malcolm and Westgate without going back out to University. They're both effectively giant cul-de-sacs. And even the walking/biking situation along 5th is less than good.

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby xandrex » May 9th, 2019, 2:39 pm

I'm all for restoring the grid, and this seems like it could be fairly easy with, what, an easement?

It's probably fair to say this argument is more important once "Towerside" develops more. Alas, we'll probably develop the area and make it impossible to build any of these connections.

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Re: Saint Paul - General Topics

Postby gcm » May 16th, 2019, 2:34 am

Is this something new? I haven't seen any mention of it previously.

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