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Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: January 20th, 2017, 3:29 pm
by at40man
A developer is very interested in the site, and the idea of a 5-star hotel is being floated:

http://www.twincities.com/2017/01/20/fi ... in-st-paul

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: January 20th, 2017, 3:32 pm
by acs
Cardon Development of Phoenix specifically.

http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/n ... tches.html

5 star hotel, parking, housing, office space mixed use. Wouldn't it be something to see St. Paul jump ahead and get MN's first 5 star hotel before Minneapolis?

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: April 18th, 2017, 3:25 pm
by twincitizen

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: April 20th, 2017, 9:14 am
by bubzki2
Pioneer Press:

Plans for St. Paul river bluffs: Hotel, offices, apartments, retail — all at once

http://www.twincities.com/2017/04/18/pl ... l-at-once/

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: September 7th, 2017, 10:16 am
by Ubermoose
Any news on this project? The retaining wall was supposed to be done in August if I remember correctly.

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: September 8th, 2017, 7:04 pm
by Uptown46
Appears to be dead in the current form. http://www.twincities.com/2017/09/08/ri ... ey-county/

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: September 9th, 2017, 9:46 pm
by Minnehahaha
Well, all that means is the site is now available for Amazon, right? ;)

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: September 11th, 2017, 3:35 pm
by SurlyLHT
It'll be great if Amazon located here and across the river near Harriet Island. Unfortunately, this new is really disappointing. I'll like for St. Paul to get at least one addition to their skyline during this current boom. Secondly, it simply doesn't indicate good things for Downtown or the city and county that they couldn't pull this off.

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: September 11th, 2017, 4:12 pm
by VacantLuxuries
You could build a really impressive condo building on this site. Though Coleman is probably still on that dumb "Less residential development downtown until we get more office buildings" kick.

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: September 11th, 2017, 10:07 pm
by Didier
The article indicated this was a structural thing, like the extra parking spaces were only needed for support and nothing else. Idk!

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: September 12th, 2017, 8:01 am
by alexschief
Didier wrote:
September 11th, 2017, 10:07 pm
The article indicated this was a structural thing, like the extra parking spaces were only needed for support and nothing else. Idk!
Which seemed to suppose that you could only start building residential or office above the top of the bluff? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, considering that both previous buildings had most of their uses below the bluff, facing out to the river. I don't quite understand why a developer would have to build up the entire bluff up with parking before starting to build actual uses.

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: September 12th, 2017, 8:46 am
by MNdible
You could have a liner of residential (or office or whatever) looking out to the river side, but you're going to be left with a lot of space between that and the bluff if you're building a typical double-loaded layout above street level.

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: September 12th, 2017, 9:48 am
by kirby96
MNdible wrote:
September 12th, 2017, 8:46 am
You could have a liner of residential (or office or whatever) looking out to the river side, but you're going to be left with a lot of space between that and the bluff if you're building a typical double-loaded layout above street level.
Right. I think the way to think about this is that while it doesn't specifically need to be parking below the bluff, it does need to be stuff that is basically OK to put in a basement.

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: September 18th, 2018, 7:39 am
by MN Fats

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: September 18th, 2018, 7:53 am
by Anondson
Can anyone post more of the images in the proposals?

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: September 18th, 2018, 8:18 am
by bubzki2
Is that tower on the left one of the original Gateway tower proposals?

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: September 18th, 2018, 8:27 am
by Nathan
I'm pretty sure it's the Bank of America tower from times square.

Also, massive waterfalls?

Get it if you can get it stp!

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: September 18th, 2018, 8:30 am
by HiawathaGuy
Anondson wrote:
September 18th, 2018, 7:53 am
Can anyone post more of the images in the proposals?
The AECOM rendering is the only one in the article, sadly.

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: September 18th, 2018, 9:17 am
by Bakken2016
I am in love with this, come through Ramsey county!

Re: Demolition of West Publishing / old jail

Posted: September 18th, 2018, 10:28 am
by kellonathan
I'm personally happy to see bigger out-of-town players like AECOM bringing in some competitions to the Twin Cities development market. I'm loving these quality proposals and renderings.

(Full disclosure: Albeit not involved in any of these proposals, I'm an AECOM employee.)