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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby MN Fats » September 17th, 2014, 2:26 pm

The U.S. Department of Transportation TIGER Planning Grant will pay for a study called “Building a Multimodal Corridor on the Canadian Pacific Rail Spur: Preliminary Design Study and Master Plan.”
http://finance-commerce.com/2014/09/100 ... pur-study/

Does anyone know more about this? The full article seems to be behind a pay wall.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby HiawathaGuy » September 17th, 2014, 2:42 pm

http://t4america.org/maps-tools/tigermap/

St. Paul Rail to Multimodal Corridor Plan
TIGER Batch: TIGER VI
Applicant: City of Saint Paul
Project Description: This project will fund a design study and master plan for reusing the Canadian Pacific Rail Spur as a multimodal corridor for bicycles, pedestrians, and possibly transit. The overall objective will be to develop a plan for how the bicycle, pedestrian and transit communities can use the rail line
Grant Amount: $100,000
Urban or Rural: Urban
Fiscal Year: FY 2014

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby mulad » September 17th, 2014, 2:55 pm

According to the F&C article, the study itself is budgeted for $200k, so this provides half the money for that. It's being set up as an offshoot of the Riverview Corridor study. Sounds like it's specifically for studying the spur track which runs roughly from West 7th & St. Clair to the Ford site.

Here's a study proposal from 2013: http://www.stpaul.gov/DocumentCenter/View/72236 (PDF, takes a while to load)

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby MN Fats » October 30th, 2014, 1:59 pm

A lot of racket going on over at the Ford Site the past few days. Big piles of dirt and concrete removal. Just got this email about a community meeting regarding the site.
Saint Paul Ford Site:
Creating a 21st Century Community

Mayor Chris Coleman and City Councilmember Chris Tolbert cordially invite residents from Saint Paul and the Twin Cities Metropolitan area to a public meeting to discuss the future of the Ford Site, priorities for redevelopment, and how to get involved in the process.

Monday, November 10, 2014, 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
St. Catherine University
Jeanne D'Arc Auditorium
2004 Randolph Avenue (near Cleveland)

Join the conversation about:
- Priorities: Key principles to guide redevelopment
- Progress: What's been done and what's ahead
- Participation: Visit topic kiosks to learn more and share your thoughts

Questions?
Call: Merritt Clapp-Smith, 651-266-6547 or Mike Richardson, 651-266-6621
Email: [email protected]
Visit: http://www.stpaul.gov/21stCenturyCommunity

Spread the word! Share the attached flyer with your network or post it in public areas.

Upon request, the City of Saint Paul will provide this information in additional formats or languages and will also provide reasonable accomodations to persons with disabilities or interpreters at the community meeting.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby MN Fats » November 14th, 2014, 10:20 am

Here's video of the full meeting if anyone is interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMAZ1aU ... e=youtu.be

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby ProspectPete » November 19th, 2014, 12:39 pm

Does anyone know if they used the Ford spur RR to they remove all the construction debris from the site? I was just thinking that I don't remember seeing any trucks loaded up with constrution debris during the demolition process.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby MN Fats » November 19th, 2014, 2:01 pm

Does anyone know if they used the Ford spur RR to they remove all the construction debris from the site? I was just thinking that I don't remember seeing any trucks loaded up with constrution debris during the demolition process.
I work across the street. Saw a good amount of trucks hauling debris leaving the site and going down Ford Pkwy across the bridge. Also a portion of the debris is staying on site to be recycled.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby Anondson » February 22nd, 2015, 4:56 pm

Hypothetical. If some major company came along at this stage to buy the entire site for large scale manufacturing, would the city be let them or is the redevelopment so far along the neighborhood and city wouldn't want to stop it?

Such as Apple? Rumormongering and tea leaf reading here. Apple is said to highly desire returning manufacturing to the U.S. Apple is said to strongly insist on going green power for their facilities. Apple looks to have some car-centric endeavor lately. What if Apple showed up and said they wanted to site with its built-in hydro energy to build stuff. Or anyone else for that matter, would the city let them at this stage?

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby seanrichardryan » February 22nd, 2015, 4:58 pm

I'd be supportive, with perhaps a liner block of housing/ retail along Ford Pkwy incorporating redevelopment of the Lund's site.
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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby up north » February 22nd, 2015, 11:06 pm

Here's a quick mockup of what the Ford site could look like sticking to the traditional grid pattern of the city.

Red = Commercial/Mixed Use
Purple = Apartments/Condos
Blue = Residential
Green = Park

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby grant1simons2 » February 22nd, 2015, 11:13 pm

I wouldn't be against a large solar array here

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby nickmgray » February 23rd, 2015, 12:08 pm

Thanks for sharing the grid.

I think the best option would be to stick with the grid, but use all the blocks for high-density residential and office space with the exception for one to use used as a neighborhood park/plaza for community events. By high-density, I'm thinking 3-5 story buildings mixed in with a few 8-10 story buildings in the middle or closer to the river.

Add in street-front retail or restaurants on all the buildings surrounding the park/plaza and we could be looking at a thriving new neighborhood in Saint Paul.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby MN Fats » February 23rd, 2015, 1:45 pm

I wonder what the chances are of a high-rise somewhere in there? There are already two in the area.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby seanrichardryan » February 23rd, 2015, 1:46 pm

What about some half acre lots along the parkway for my 6br Tudor Revival.
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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby Wedgeguy » February 23rd, 2015, 2:10 pm

I wonder what the chances are of a high-rise somewhere in there? There are already two in the area.
Not to say that it is impossible. But the few towers that have been built near the rivers were back before they had the preservation of the river sight lines. Any tower would have to be set back a ways from the river to get built now days. There is just too much opposition in this day and age for a tower to sail through approval.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby nickmgray » March 3rd, 2015, 11:38 am

I think we need a little diversity in height, but I don't think the area really needs anything higher than 15-20 floors.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby Anondson » March 3rd, 2015, 1:26 pm

Don't think the neighborhood will allow anything taller than 6.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby Wedgeguy » March 3rd, 2015, 1:47 pm

Don't think the neighborhood will allow anything taller than 6.
I hate having to agree with you. This neighborhood is always bent if something over 3 stories is build behind their houses.

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Re: Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant Redevelopment

Postby mister.shoes » March 3rd, 2015, 3:14 pm

I know St. Paul has bigger/fewer neighborhoods than MPLS, but isn't this chunk of land big enough to be its own neighborhood and not be subject entirely to the whims of those next door? I'd really like to see StP do something bold and ambitious and dense and really nice and urban here—but we all would.
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