Sibley Plaza Redevelopment [on hold]

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Re: Sibley Plaza Redo

Postby exiled_antipodean » September 19th, 2014, 3:18 pm

nate wrote:That's a strange little corner of St Paul. Lots of apartments, light industry, an airport parking lot/parking ramp that seems to be consistently full full, and strip malls. Mostly developed in the 1970s, and very isolated from the rest of the city. I don't see a whole lot of appeal for living there, but apparently thousands and thousands of people do.
It is a strange little corner of the city, and although I'd never want to live there myself after years of going through the area I think I understand the appeal of it in this way. It is approximately equidistant to the two downtowns and both routes are fairly easy rush-hour traffic (river roads into Minneapolis, or Shepherd to Saint Paul). Also, the access onto 62/494/55/35E for anyone commuting south or west is pretty easy. VA Hospital and airport are other major job centers nearby.

Needless to say if airport access is your thing, it's a good spot.

The recreational amenities (Hidden Falls, Fort Snelling) are also pretty good.

So, yeah, weird spot but I can see why thousands (in a metro of > 3 million) would want to be there.

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Re: Sibley Plaza Redo

Postby MN Fats » July 22nd, 2015, 9:26 am

Champps/7th St Tavern closing after 30 years

http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_ ... ose-at-end

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Re: Sibley Plaza Redo

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Re: Sibley Plaza Redo

Postby seanrichardryan » May 27th, 2016, 10:39 am

But we haven't had time to complain about traffic & parking yet!
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Re: Sibley Plaza Redo

Postby ProspectPete » May 27th, 2016, 11:28 am

Did they use CGI for that rendering?

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Re: Sibley Plaza Redo

Postby grant1simons2 » May 27th, 2016, 11:51 am

I mean aren't all renderings CGI technically???

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Re: Sibley Plaza Redo

Postby billhelm » August 7th, 2017, 10:21 am

http://www.twincities.com/2017/08/07/hi ... 1502107863

Cooper's Foods is closing... wonder if any redevelopment conversations will start up again? Seems like there's a lot of vacant storefronts there, and losing an anchor can't be good for whatever's left.

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Re: Sibley Plaza Redo

Postby BigIdeasGuy » October 14th, 2017, 1:19 pm

http://pasterprop.com/center.asp?bldgid=SBP

It appears that the owners of Sibley Plaza have a new plan for the property. At first glance it still looks pretty suburban

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Re: Sibley Plaza Redo

Postby mamundsen » October 14th, 2017, 3:19 pm

Looks like an apartment building and 2 medium box stores. I can't tell if there are retail bays on the ground floor of the apartment. It will be interesting to hear what price point these are. There are some lower end housing around here.

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Re: Sibley Plaza Redo

Postby mattaudio » October 14th, 2017, 8:16 pm

It's Hi-Lake 2.0....

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Re: Sibley Plaza Redo

Postby Vagueperson » October 15th, 2017, 7:21 pm

Those buildings on the right look basically like what already exists there.

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Re: Sibley Plaza Redo

Postby billhelm » October 16th, 2017, 11:06 am

is that a new plan? I see they have Cooper's on it, isn't that closing soon?

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Re: Sibley Plaza Redo

Postby twincitizen » October 16th, 2017, 11:34 am

BigIdeasGuy wrote:
October 14th, 2017, 1:19 pm
http://pasterprop.com/center.asp?bldgid=SBP

It appears that the owners of Sibley Plaza have a new plan for the property. At first glance it still looks pretty suburban
billhelm wrote:
October 16th, 2017, 11:06 am
is that a new plan? I see they have Cooper's on it, isn't that closing soon?
This appears to be the old plan, so no news at all it seems.

Now that the Riverview route has been chosen and will directly serve this site, hopefully we'll see a much improved redevelopment a few years down the road. The Riverview line won't open until 2027 at the soonest (10 years!), so I'm actually hoping they don't redevelop this site for a few years. The closer the rail line is to reality, you can imagine a larger and larger project (with fewer parking spaces) being approved. If they come back with a revised plan in the next 1-2 years, I'd bet it will still be quasi-suburban, include large amounts of surface parking, relatively few units, etc. I'd much rather wait for the market to improve in this area (currently fairly low-rent area) and see how much better/bigger of a project the market could support in ~5 years.


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