Allianz Field and Snelling-Midway Development

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby MNdible » August 11th, 2016, 12:02 pm

If the DFL Ideological Purity Committee does their job, yes. Small Tent, baby!

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby aeisenberg » August 12th, 2016, 2:14 pm

acs wrote:Mayor Coleman seems to be pretty optimistic about this happening:
http://m.startribune.com/mayor-to-propo ... tion=local

Pledging for 3,000 new jobs in 3 years, focused on high poverty areas of the city. Gee, I wonder what could fit that bill? This might be the easiest campaign promise he'll ever make, right in time for him to run for Governor in 2018. Sorry to rain on the parade, but my day job is sniffing out bullshit and this reeks.
This reeks of... a politician... making a promise to improve his city... and almost certainly delivering on it.

Am I missing something? What a stupid criticism.
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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby MattW » August 17th, 2016, 2:17 pm

I've said it in this thread before, but something we should mention to our elected officials. Lambeau Field, a stadium nearly 4x the size of this one, has very limited dedicated parking facilities for a stadium its size. A large percentage of attendees at Packers games park in the surrounding neighborhoods. Additionally, Green Bay has nowhere near the public transit infrastructure that St. Paul has.

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby MNdible » August 17th, 2016, 2:26 pm

Why would anybody be concerned about the ability of the Snelling LRT platforms to accommodate an event crowd?

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby MattW » August 17th, 2016, 2:34 pm

You're missing my point. The article is saying that MnDOT and Met Council think more people will drive than what the team is estimating. This is likely done in effort for the team to build more parking. I'm saying Lambeau Field is an example with very little structured parking and can handle the traffic of a major sporting event.

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby MNdible » August 17th, 2016, 2:50 pm

I wasn't responding to you, actually. They're two totally different issues.

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby Didier » August 17th, 2016, 3:04 pm

To be fair, the very first event at a 64,000-seat stadium isn't necessarily indicative of what the norm would be like at a future 20,000-seat stadium. But now I'm starting to sound like MNdible.

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby seanrichardryan » August 17th, 2016, 5:00 pm

The UPDC task force had just the same concerns about light rail access and congestion. It was assumed (hinted by planners) that plaza space north of the stadium (approx. where Mc Ds is) would handle EB passenger queues, and Fry street would be closed to handle WB queues, keeping platforms and crossings controlled. Simply having the directional stations separated should alleviate some of the congestion. That said, the scaled back 'opening day' scenario does not include the plaza adjacent to University, so, unknown what Metro transit now has planned. Wait for your train with a Big Mac?
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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby MNdible » August 17th, 2016, 5:01 pm

Not exactly the same. But definitely in the same ballpark.

Per the article linked to above, Metro Transit estimated that 13,700 people arrived by transit for the soccer match. I arrived by bus, and it's not clear if I'm counted in those numbers or if it's LRT only.

Planners claim that 45% of the 21,600 attendees will arrive by transit at the MN-FC Stadium. That's 9,720.

There are also a whole number of other factors which will make crushload LRT operations at Snelling and University much much worse than at the Vikings Stadium.

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby seanrichardryan » August 17th, 2016, 5:02 pm

I understand the stadium may also have climate controlled bicycle valet. And in other news, the SP city council just approved the last hurdle for the stadium area development. Just waiting on the legislature...
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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby KML_1981 » August 18th, 2016, 6:04 pm

No special session. On hold until at least january.

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby cooperrez » August 19th, 2016, 2:48 pm

BQ article from FiftyFive.One re: no special session,

http://fiftyfive.one/2016/08/no-2016-sp ... ta-united/

Article basically concludes that prep work could still go forward at the site and not much time lost on the construction completion (more than was already lost when May session resulted in no bill), assuming tax bill gets passed next year. The wait continues...

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby cooperrez » August 19th, 2016, 2:53 pm

MNdible wrote:Why would anybody be concerned about the ability of the Snelling LRT platforms to accommodate an event crowd?

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Is this what it looked like after a Vikings game at the Dome? It would have been similar crowd sizes for their games, right?

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby Didier » August 19th, 2016, 3:41 pm

No Green Line for the dome, but Target Field usually had ~20,000 fans.

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby ProspectPete » September 29th, 2016, 3:18 am

Here is a link to a good article by Fred Melo about the Midway site:

http://www.twincities.com/2016/09/27/mi ... 1475032896

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby HuskyGrad » October 25th, 2016, 1:24 pm

A few design tweaks to the stadium.
55.1 Article.
http://fiftyfive.one/2016/10/minnesota- ... face-lift/

Comparison of renderings:
https://goo.gl/njKIW3

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby nBode » October 25th, 2016, 2:20 pm

Looks like some cost-cutting as well as general refinement/improvement. Unless they're adding seats elsewhere, the capacity is decreased without the full bowl.

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby acs » October 25th, 2016, 2:37 pm

Well at least new renderings indicate that the project isn't completely dead. Good sign I guess?

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Re: Soccer Stadium and Snelling-Midway Development

Postby HuskyGrad » October 25th, 2016, 3:56 pm

acs wrote:Well at least new renderings indicate that the project isn't completely dead. Good sign I guess?
Completely dead?


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