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Hillcrest golf course redevelopment site

Posted: June 5th, 2019, 4:58 pm
by MNTonka
I’d like to get some discussion started on the former Hillcrest golf course site on the city’s northeast corner. The site is nearly as large as the former Ford site, yet it seems to be flying under the public radar. I haven’t really heard anything about it as of yet. What would you like to see happen here?

Re: Hillcrest golf course redevelopment site

Posted: June 5th, 2019, 7:59 pm
by Anondson
Last I heard the St. Paul port authority was getting involved, maybe buying the site even to prepare it for something.

Re: Hillcrest golf course redevelopment site

Posted: June 6th, 2019, 3:25 am
by Tiller
The "future land use" for this site in the 2040 land use map was nearly entirely single family homes, with a tiny "business node" on larpentuer. I grew up near here, and would hate that result.

Hopefully that is just a placeholder, but unless we push elected officials and organize to make it happen we're going to get a dumb result. Sustain Ward 6 anyone?

Re: Hillcrest golf course redevelopment site

Posted: June 6th, 2019, 1:36 pm
by DThompson
Isn't it technically zoned Urban Neighborhood? According to the 2040 plan that is pretty broad.

"Urban Neighborhoods are primarily residential areas with a range of housing types. Single-family homes and duplexes are most common, although multi-family housing predominates along arterial and collector streets, particularly those with transit. Multi-family housing, schools, neighborhood parks, religious institutions and cemeteries may also be scattered throughout Urban Neighborhoods. Limited neighborhood-serving commercial may also be present, typically at intersections of arterial and/or collector streets."

Re: Hillcrest golf course redevelopment site

Posted: June 6th, 2019, 10:07 pm
by Vagueperson
Here are a couple recent articles:
http://www.startribune.com/city-of-st-p ... 510531392/
https://www.twincities.com/2019/05/28/p ... lf-course/
https://www.twincities.com/2019/05/27/s ... there-yet/

They've designated it an “industrial development district,” but it appears this is in order to clean it up and not indicating an industrial future. Maybe I'm not understanding that correctly, however.

Re: Hillcrest golf course redevelopment site

Posted: June 8th, 2019, 9:57 pm
by MNTonka
I’m hoping the 2040 plan did not account for the land to be sold? Or am I wrong about this?

I took a walk through the former golf course this past winter to check it out. On the northern end, there is a large hill with a great view that you can clearly see the Minneapolis skyline on a clear day. This space should absolutely be converted to a park/public space. The view is really good for MN.

3M is a mile away from this site. I would imagine that this land is on their radar. Not for business purposes, but for the opportunity to influence the future development of the land. To create a sustainable, local, and vibrant community. The type of place that would attract a young, talented workforce that every corporation is fighting over. Close proximity to your workplace is increasingly important to graduates these days. 3M could be used as an ally in how this land gets developed.

Re: Hillcrest golf course redevelopment site

Posted: July 17th, 2019, 8:38 pm
by MNTonka
St. Paul City Council approved the purchase of the site for $10m.
https://www.twincities.com/2019/07/17/1 ... -purchase/

Re: Hillcrest golf course redevelopment site

Posted: July 26th, 2019, 3:10 pm
by karen nelson
This seems like kiss of death "Last I heard the St. Paul port authority was getting involved"

My experience with them is they have know vision of what cities do best and where cities are going in future but rather think cities can reclaim manufacturing jobs of old by building same sort of space manufacturers want and can get in exurbs for far lower price - and then wonder why no manufacturers will lease their buildings they build.

This site on two arterial roads near SFH begs to be a mixed use development for MFH residential, retail and office space along main roads, tall residential inside, tapering down do "missing middle" type stuff along the current SFHs to the east side of site . Hook it up with a nice park, bike paths and BRT node and it could be great neighborhood.

Re: Hillcrest golf course redevelopment site

Posted: July 31st, 2019, 2:24 pm
by mattaudio
The vast majority of SPPA projects are total duds that look like they're competing with Rogers or Shakopee for low-employment-density warehousing and manufacturing. https://www.sppa.com/commercial-redevel ... d-projects

Re: Hillcrest golf course redevelopment site

Posted: August 3rd, 2019, 6:00 pm
by MNTonka
mattaudio wrote:
July 31st, 2019, 2:24 pm
The vast majority of SPPA projects are total duds that look like they're competing with Rogers or Shakopee for low-employment-density warehousing and manufacturing. https://www.sppa.com/commercial-redevel ... d-projects
Ooof. Nothing like any of those, please!

Re: Hillcrest golf course redevelopment site

Posted: August 14th, 2019, 3:45 pm
by karen nelson
Can we get some experienced land use, transportation people East Site people on this committee now!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/news/ ... ar-AAFL4yU

Re: Hillcrest golf course redevelopment site

Posted: August 14th, 2019, 3:46 pm
by karen nelson
https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/news/ ... ar-AAFL4yU

"At McKnight Road and Larpenteur Avenue, the city of St. Paul plans to rezone a defunct golf course almost as large as the Twin Cities Ford Motor Co. campus in Highland Park. The plan is to make it ready for sale and redevelopment into housing, commerce and open space."

"Applications to join the Hillcrest Community Advisory Committee will be accepted through Sept. 6 at stpaul.gov/hillcrest."

Re: Hillcrest golf course redevelopment site

Posted: August 14th, 2019, 3:47 pm
by karen nelson
"The city is looking for five St. Paul residents, one or two Maplewood residents, a representative of the housing industry, someone who works in or advocates for multi-modal transportation, a business owner or staff member with a business association, and a member of the St. Paul Planning Commission."