Pentagon Park (Hwy 100 & Industrial Blvd) - Edina

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Re: Pentagon Park (Hwy 100 & Industrial Blvd) - Edina

Postby mister.shoes » October 7th, 2015, 10:20 am

The last part of the complex at the SE corner of 100 and 77th is now gone, as the holdout daycare building has been vacated and demolished. The slate is now clean.
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Pentagon Park (Hwy 100 & Industrial Blvd) - Edina

Postby Anondson » June 17th, 2017, 1:05 am

With the office market limp, and residential in very high demand, the Pentagon Park redevelopment switching to heavily residential.

http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/n ... ml?ana=twt

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Re: Pentagon Park (Hwy 100 & Industrial Blvd) - Edina

Postby mister.shoes » June 18th, 2017, 10:44 pm

I kept meaning to dig up this thread and note that the super awful graphics touting Apple Stores and whatnot have been long gone from the fences on site...but then I didn't because ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Pentagon Park (Hwy 100 & Industrial Blvd) - Edina

Postby Anondson » November 20th, 2017, 5:24 pm

City of Edina looking to buy Pentagon Park.

https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/ ... ampus.html

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Re: Pentagon Park (Hwy 100 & Industrial Blvd) - Edina

Postby sdho » November 20th, 2017, 9:58 pm

Anondson wrote:
November 20th, 2017, 5:24 pm
City of Edina looking to buy Pentagon Park.

https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/ ... ampus.html
Interesting. That seems like a pretty big chunk to bite off for an HRA. I'd like to see something happen here, but I'd sort of prefer more redevelopment stay concentrated in the heart of the Southdale District first.

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Re: Pentagon Park (Hwy 100 & Industrial Blvd) - Edina

Postby HiawathaGuy » November 29th, 2017, 1:06 pm

More interesting info...

Edina reviewing Pentagon Park proposal for two hotels, large medical office development
https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/ ... r-two.html
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Solomon Real Estate Group is talks with Edina officials to build a large medical office campus near Interstate 494 and Highway 100.

Victoria-based Solomon is pitching a pair of medical office buildings of five or six stories. One would total 100,000 square feet and the other would be slightly larger, at 110,000 square feet, according to a narrative submitted to the city.

The project also would include a pair of five-story, 150-room hotels, two parking ramps and 5,000 square feet of retail space.
Edina city officials and Solomon could not be reached for comment.

The site is just steps from where United Properties and the city of Bloomington have been working on a project to build a 175,000-square-foot medical office campus for Allina Health System. The two projects are very similar, though on different sides of the Edina-Bloomington border. Solomon's pitch for Edina doesn't name a tenant.

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Re: Pentagon Park (Hwy 100 & Industrial Blvd) - Edina

Postby sdho » November 29th, 2017, 7:57 pm

Not quite as cool as the previous plan for a taller building with a "Centennial Lakes-inspired" overpass of 77th to go from that building to Fred Richards Park and the regional trail. But still pretty nice. I work across the street from this and would love to see something happen -- or at least for the site to be fully cleaned up from the demolished building.

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Re: Pentagon Park (Hwy 100 & Industrial Blvd) - Edina

Postby HiawathaGuy » December 1st, 2017, 11:07 am

Edina wants more pizazz in Pentagon Park pitch
http://finance-commerce.com/2017/11/edi ... ark-pitch/
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Seems Edina wasn't all that impressed with this first pitch...

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Re: Pentagon Park (Hwy 100 & Industrial Blvd) - Edina

Postby Multimodal » January 5th, 2018, 9:56 pm

Did anyone see the Pentagon Park North sketch plan presented at the Dec 13 Planning Commission meeting?

Some thoughtful work (underground parking that, despite the flood plain, leaves the first story within 3 steps of ground level; breaks up the lot a little) ultimately feels very suburban.

My jaw dropped when the architect said they were modeling it after Excelsior & Grand, which he termed a “classic style that will last the years”.

Also a refusal to have any mixed use—it’s apartments (incl. senior) only, partly because that’s all they know how to build (when all you have is a hammer…). Some people/planners/architects still seem to think “walkability” is just about greenery. But you need destinations.

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Re: Pentagon Park (Hwy 100 & Industrial Blvd) - Edina

Postby Anondson » January 5th, 2018, 10:02 pm

While it’s not perfect, if a development fails to increase the Walk Score then “walkability” is a bunch of “el oh el nothing even matters...”

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Re: Pentagon Park (Hwy 100 & Industrial Blvd) - Edina

Postby Tcmetro » January 6th, 2018, 10:19 am

Here's the packet for the Dec 13 meeting, which featured an update on the residential developments on the north side of 77th:
https://edina.novusagenda.com/AgendaPub ... tingID=265

Details about the south parcel (office) are in the Nov 29 meeting agenda:
https://edina.novusagenda.com/AgendaPub ... tingID=798

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Re: Pentagon Park (Hwy 100 & Industrial Blvd) - Edina

Postby sdho » January 6th, 2018, 1:14 pm

Dear God that is a lot of surface parking -- but apparently 28 too few spots for Edina code. One of the most bizarre things about Edina's multi-family parking code is that they actually require a certain proportion of the spots be surface parking. Even if cost is no option, you may not fulfill your parking requirement with only structured parking. In practice, they don't seem to have really insisted on this, but I don't think it should be in the code. So many of Edina's developments are expensive enough, they probably could satisfy Edina's massive parking requirements without doing surface at all.

I think the change to mostly residential is OK, but it would have been nice to have some space reserved for future commercial -- even a gas station or coffee shop would provide something to walk to.

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Re: Pentagon Park (Hwy 100 & Industrial Blvd) - Edina

Postby Multimodal » January 6th, 2018, 3:18 pm

Gas station?! Never thought I’d hear that on streets.mn

But, yeah, the regional trail & large park with be a huge draw. Even with amenities inside the park, some people will always want something different (more or less formal/expensive, different cuisines) and cafes, ice cream shops, restaurants, etc. nearby would likely be a big draw.

And I imagine lots of municipalities ignore large portions of their code. As a developer, you gotta pay attention to whoever’s making the decisions today.

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Re: Pentagon Park (Hwy 100 & Industrial Blvd) - Edina

Postby sdho » January 6th, 2018, 11:00 pm

Multimodal wrote:
January 6th, 2018, 3:18 pm
Gas station?! Never thought I’d hear that on streets.mn
They've upped their game the last 10 or so years with more urban-friendly formats that have direct sidewalk frontage, minimize pumps, and have more fresh grocery to actually serve as a decent bodega. I think the biggest issue is just the gas pump area. In a perfect world, it would be cool to see them interior to the building, like having the retail portion in front of a parking garage and having the pump area inside the parking ramp. That is fairly common in both Oslo and Copenhagen and really mitigates the negative impacts of having that area. But, so far we haven't even done that in downtown Minneapolis, so a more conventional gas station is probably more reasonable here.
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But, yeah, the regional trail & large park with be a huge draw. Even with amenities inside the park, some people will always want something different (more or less formal/expensive, different cuisines) and cafes, ice cream shops, restaurants, etc. nearby would likely be a big draw.
They're nice, but with Centennial Lakes only a mile away, it would be hard to picture them making a go of another major commercial urban park. I see this as more of a neighborhood focus -- including the office workers and this new residential. Could be room for some stuff, but I can't see sustaining a huge mix here.

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Re: Pentagon Park (Hwy 100 & Industrial Blvd) - Edina

Postby Multimodal » January 8th, 2018, 3:02 pm

Re: Gas stations—

The Oslo & Copenhagen gas stations you describe sound much better than what we have, and possibly fit with a charging station for electric cars. It seems to me, though, that not only are we at max highways and max parking—we’re also at max gas stations. I can’t see many (any?) new gas stations within the 494/694 built-up areas. If anything, we’ll continue to lose them as cars get ever-better mileage and electric cars start to replace them.

Re: Parks—

The plans for Fred Richards Park are much more ambitious than a neighborhood park. Edina, I think, is shooting for 3 great parks: Centennial Lakes, Braemar, & Fred Richards.

Centennial Lakes is the urban park, with lots of concrete (paths, bridges, seating), buildings/services, retail, and amenities. A recreational city, if you will.

Braemar, which the city council recently approved a remake of, is the pro/sporting park (think how many sports figures live nearby), with a high-end golf course, cross-country skiing, mountain bike trails, ball fields, & hockey arena, along with tennis/pickleball and walking paths.

Fred Richards Park, while it will have a central building, playground areas, and a bicycle track, is more of a nature-oriented, open-space park. Last I saw, it was not going to have dedicated soccer fields, but rather a large, open lawn on one side, the regional trail running through it, and a nature area on the other (wet) side, with educational opportunities and nature viewing platforms.

These 3 major city parks will complement each other, rather than compete with each other.

That being said, Fred Richards is a buffer between single family homes and a dense commercial/residential area. There will be lots of people—workers during the weekday, residents & trail users at night and on weekends—that will be drawn to the park. It’s mostly office space within walking distance, so a small retail/entertainment/food corridor along 77th and/or the north/south entrance to the park makes sense.


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